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Old 01-11-2013, 01:09 AM
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Default Removing Airbag Steering Wheel?

I want to install a new leather wrap on my GTS steering wheel.

What are the steps to remove the steering wheel?

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Old 01-11-2013, 01:32 AM
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Disconnect battery.
Wait 20 minutes.
Find torx bit. Unfasten airbag. (Torx bolts behind stalks.)
Disconnect 2-pin connector. Withdraw.
Unbolt steering wheel. (27mm IIRC)
When reassembling make sure to get a good 'snap' when reconnecting the 2-pin.
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Find a stubby Torx hex bit (I think the bit is either T25 or T30) that fits into one of those screwdriver handles, and use a 1/4" ratchet with a 1/4" socket to turn it. The torx screws themselves are captive in the wheel, you just undo them enough to release the airbag.

There is a white plastic 'arm' that sticks thru the crescent in the wheel, it connects the airbag wiring. Its range of motion is about 9 full rotations. If the wheel is centered when you take it off, that 'arm' should be 4.5 rotations from either end (i.e., in the middle of its travel). Not a big deal as long as you don't rotate it while the wheel is off. Guess how I learned about this?

After undoing the shaft nut, make a line with an ultrafine sharpie across the wheel hub and the shaft so you get the wheel back on the same spline.
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Thanks for the pointers guys.

Is there any difficulty in replacing the horn buttons?

I'm thinking they just pry out of the wheel recesses?
Old 01-16-2013, 01:22 PM
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Randy You probably know anytime the bag is disconnected, you will have an "airbag" fault message on your dash. You need a Hammer or Theo's software to clear it.
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Randy - the airbag is still an explosive device - store it bag side up on the garage floor.

If you reconnect the battery & turn the ignition on with the bag out you will indeed get an airbag fault locked.

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Good points, guys.

My plan is to get a loaner steering wheel from a friend in the business (if he has one) and swap steering wheels with power diconnected to prevent the airbag warning light.

Horn button tips?
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Randy,

As David said, the WSM indicates 20 minutes for disconnection of the battery. I've done this 5-6 times on my GTS, and I ALWAYS err on the conservative side with that EXPLOSIVE device when it is right in front of my face. Therefore, I always disconnect the battery about 24 hours before I start the removal process.

IF you never turn the ignition ON while the airbag is disconnected, the AirBag error should not be activated. Again - only once did I make this mistake, and the error code popped up every time until I used Theo's software to eliminate it. In the other times, when I did not insert or turn the key, I've never had the error code activated.

You MIGHT want to consider a 3 spoke wheel from the 996's/Boxsters. Tremendous improvement in my opinion, and you don't have those stupid "buttons" to activate the horn - just the center pad.

Gary
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are there certain years that work or don't work on the boxster steering wheels?
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Jeff,
The later models of the 996 (called a 911) and 986 (Boxster) fit the 928's (and 944's/968's) that were equipped with airbag. They need one SMALL modification in order for them to fit perfectly - taking 6 mm off the top of their splines so the nut can be fully fitted. The earlier models (and I think the 993's) with airbags have a four spoke wheel - much like the 928/968 steering wheel, but it uses the middle of the wheel (actually the airbag) as a contact for the horn. So - they would fit also on airbag models of the front engine water cooled cars. They need the same small modification to the wheel

A "clock spring" from those model cars is also needed to use the rear engine cars steering wheel on the front engine cars, along with their airbag as well.

I have a couple of modified steering wheels (the 6mm removed) that would fit on 928's. Modifications cost me about $35 each for a machinist to do the work.

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I did what worf 928 recomended ,and no bang / or light . Did it twice because I put the wheel on one notch out the first time.
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Originally Posted by Randy V
Thanks for the pointers guys.

Is there any difficulty in replacing the horn buttons?

I'm thinking they just pry out of the wheel recesses?
Yes
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