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Old 11-24-2012, 11:43 PM
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I spent a few hours cleaning my front hubs and painting them while doing new front shocks and wheel bearings. While running a 50 mile (settle it) I noticed my antilock light come on. I shut it down and restarted it and it comes on again.

Did I paint the pick-ups for the speed sensors on these front hubs? I thought I saw 4 or 5 tabs of a different metal on the outside edge on the inner part of the hub. Anybody spend 3-4 hours cleaning their hubs for paint only to experience this?

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Old 11-24-2012, 11:54 PM
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I've had the outter portion of my front hubs painted for years now with no adverse effects. BUT, not the inside of the hubs! If you painted the inside, well it's time to get the paint stripper out.
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I did not paint the inside, the wheel face or rotor face. However I gave them 3 coats silver wheel paint and 2 coats clear.
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I believe it can have some effect on cooling as it will retain the heat
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Originally Posted by mark anderson
I believe it can have some effect on cooling as it will retain the heat
Thanks Mark, that is enough to make me strip them . Can you confirm the idea of sensors imbedded in the hub?
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As far as I can tell the ring that is pressed on is just steel
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Originally Posted by mark anderson
As far as I can tell the ring that is pressed on is just steel
That ring is the toothed one I take it. I thought I saw 4-5 pads in the casting of the hub that appeared to be possibly magnets for the sensor to read.

Maybe I should ask it this way. Does the toothed ring get read by the sensor sticking through the backing plate?
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I would not think that little bit of paint would ever make any difference on a street car and painted hubs look good. With my twists you can really see them. I would strip the inside if you painted that but leave the outside alone. By the way, those wheels are a good choice for a white car.
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Originally Posted by rgs944
I would not think that little bit of paint would ever make any difference on a street car and painted hubs look good. With my twists you can really see them. I would strip the inside if you painted that but leave the outside alone.
I cannot even see the hubs after the rotors are installed. You must be referring to the rotor hats.
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Does the toothed ring get read by the sensor sticking through the backing plate?
Yes. 45 teeth on an S4 hub ring.
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Originally Posted by supercedar
I cannot even see the hubs after the rotors are installed. You must be referring to the rotor hats.
Thomas
Yes, I did think you were talking about the rotor hats. sorry
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Yes. 45 teeth on an S4 hub ring.
Thank you Rob, so there is not any sensor/magnets cast into the hub itself?

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Faint induction pulse is sensed when magnetic sensor reads the passing of a steel tooth. Paint would interfere.


Zoom in, here's an S4 antilock sensor positioned near the toothed hub at 2 o'clock.
One can just barely see a few teeth.

And another picture that shows early 90 tooth vs later 45 toothed S4 hubs.

And a third picture showing in installed 90 tooth hub and sensor.
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Does the antilock light come on as soon as the engine is started, or only when the car moves ?
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Does the antilock light come on as soon as the engine is started, or only when the car moves ?
John,
only when the car moves, I might have forgot to attach the ground wire on the shock tower. I believe there is one in that location.

Landseer,

Thank you for the pictures and I did not paint the toothed ring so that would not effect my problem.

Thomas


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