Jadz928

And that is the classy thing to do.


How about moving it over to the 928OC Forum where it belongs?

Good forum traffic for the OC too!

NoVector

Get'n ready for some of this...

G8RB8

You can get me into the forum.
Random question:
What 928 models years were there? ie: yyyy-yyyy
I tried 1978-1982 (just the 928 model) and 1978-1995 (the whole line) and neither works.

Jadz928

You're not the only one who can't figure it out. Seems to be part of the entrance exam.

Jadz928

Here's a question regarding maintaining the OC forum...

What would the OC president be responsible for?

pcar928fan

Randy,

This is the elect AO for President of the 928 Owners Club, not the elect James Morrison for president of the 928 Owners Club... I will post my thread and thoughts soon though.

I have served for years and participated actively in the 928 Owners Club forum for at least as long. It has changed MUCH and for the better over the last few years, I am proud to have been a part of the positive improvements and with your support in this election I will continue with those improvements! More to follow in another thread...

Thanks

DR

One could also wonder how and why the current President has been "working with James for over a year, planning the transition"...YET, the nomination process didn't start until 7/7 2012(last month) ,... and the official nominations announced on 8/8/2012 (LAST WEEK).

Oh, one other fact, Stan is one of the 3 people heading up the 928OC nomination committee.

BTW, not making any accusations, or slinging anything, just passing on some interesting facts to go with the other "facts" posted.

Sadly for James and no reflection upon him, and also of no fault of his own, his nomination is IMHO "tainted" by Stan's own posting of the facts above. To me personally it now feels "rigged"...and unless Stan can explain away his statements of working with James for the last year to be his replacement a year BEFORE the Nomination process,...if I were James and for the good of the 928OC I would withdraw my nomination. This might seem extreme to some, but if you know your 928OC history, I did something similar for the greater good of the 928OC many years ago, so I am not suggesting James to do anything that I wouldn't or haven't done myself for the 928OC.

As one of the Founders of the 928OC, I think it is way past time for some New blood in control of the OC. Stan has done a great job with administration and forum stuff, but IMHO a Club like the OC needs a "Visible Leader" more than an Administrator or webmaster..heck we have Gary Knox holding the purse strings and it doesn't get any better than that for fiscal responsibility(Gary is one of the few people I know that I wouldn't blink at letting him control any finances)...but the OC needs more to grow as it should have after all these years. It needs a "presence" in the 928 Community as a whole, not just on the 928OC Forum on occasion, but on all the most popular 928 Forums and at a minimum some(or most) of the Major 928 Events....and certainly at most (if not ALL) OCIC Events.

FWIW, the 928OC was never founded to be a Discussion Forum or chat room, we the founders never even imagined this as the purpose for the Club. We knew it would be ridiculous to think we could ever change where the online 928 Community "hangs out"..the founders all met on Porsche Fans e-mail list and we never intended to replace that community, we meet to ADD TO IT and be a Strong Voice within the 928 Community, not overtake or replace it.

Going forward, whoever becomes the next 928OC President needs to EMBRACE Rennlist and/or any other place where the bulk of the 928 Community exists....not distance themselves from it, or even worse alienate themselves from where ever the 928 Community exists online AND at Events in person.

The 928OC was created to assist and make 928 Ownership easier and more fun for ALL 928 Owners...not "divide and conquer" the 928 Community...but to become a part of the community as an ASSET to ALL 928 Owners, be they 928OC members or not.

I also think the 928OC Bylaws should be amended ASAP to have term limits for officers, 4 years max would be a good starting point of discussion. I personally call on all of the officers and trustees to move immediately to make this amendment a part of the upcoming voting/election process.

Sincerely,

mickster

I have not made up my mind. I nominated AO last time around. I have organized some NY events as the regional instigator and James has been very supportive and helpful as has Stan, Gary and Greg.

Whoever wins, we need to get more people joining. Only 1/2 or less of NY attendees are members of the 928 OC and they did not even know it existed.

Join and volunteer y'all! I am busier than ever but I look forward to hanging with my 928 buddies and driving! Offering support when fixing, etc.

pcar928fan

Let me see if I can help out a little here Dave. I was asked if I would run last year and I said that I didn't feel ready for that. Virtually every organization I have been a part of has had a clear path for the leadership to move along within it. It is just smart to have folks who understand and participate in the group running it. I said a year ago that I would love to follow along more closely how things run and then run this year to replace Stan. Last year I said I would be happy if Marc stepped up from VP to Pres and I would run as his VP and serve the club shadowing him for the day he was ready to step down. That didn't happen so here we are today.

It was never rigged and there was never anything underhanded going on. I was VP before I was Pres in the Hill Country Region of the PCA and it was just a smart way to handle that (or virtually any) volunteer organization. You want people who, know, understand, love and are dedicated to the club running and managing it is all.

linderpat

Great post DR. Actually, your time may be now!
Anyway, I'll support whoever wins. I'd like to be more active. I'm undecided as of yet.

DR

James,

First off, you and I have known each other for eons, and I tried to make it clear my comments were not a reflection of you in any way. I hope you know that without a doubt.

I do appreciate your comments concerning this subject and even more so appreciate what you have been bringing to the OC recently.

As I tried to say, Stan's statements in this thread are what is causing any doubts..while they may not be a real indicator of the actual situation, these statements along with his negative attitude and other comments in this thread are the root of the issue. This is NOT how the President of any Club should be acting, especially in regard to what should be a fair election process.

If you indeed win this election, and I do wish each you and Andrew the best of luck, I at least hope you can see that behavior as seen in this thread is not appropriate for any Officer representing the 928OC, especially in an official capacity. I also hope if you win that you will continue to embrace Rennlist and other havens of the 928 Community and not have a "chip on your shoulder" about it, as it has been under current leadership. It is NOT what the 928OC is about.

All my best to you and yours,

Dave

Jon B.

Considering you've known James for years like I have Dave, you KNOW this wouldn't be an issue. He's not really a "chip on your shoulder" kind of guy! Plus, I tend to see James on every site I come across, RL and OC mostly, with some Pelican on there also. Hell, I'm pretty sure he visits Reutterwerk also.

DR

NO WAY, I already did my tenure and am too old and grumpy to do it again...plus I still can't remember what year it is, or even how to log into the 928OC Forum...much less anything else.

Me too, as long as they bring positive energy to help grow and nurture the 928OC.

That is always the stumbling block with a Club like the OC. everyone wants to be more active, but few can allocate the actual time to do it, at least consistently. It was this way in the beginning of the OC and seems to still hold true today...this is why it is more important than ever to have a "Visible Leader' out in the 928 Community to energize the 928 base in hopes to get more people like James and Andrew to be willing to step up to the plate and commit their precious time to the 928OC.

BTW, glad you are coming to Frenzy 9....err, or is it Frenzy 16??? :-)

See ya soon,

Dave

928mac

Now that is a positive post. I wish for the same Dave, that the club will move forward in a positive way and I will also support who ever wins. Or they will can my ***

DR

Hence the word "continue" to embrace...I have full faith in James concerning this.

BTW, I just got your Official 928OC NC Region Email reminding everyone about the upcoming 928OC Elections, thanks for that.... but I think you forgot to paste Andrew's Political Statement in it to go along with James' Political Statement that you pasted in it...you may want to check that e-mail and correct that omission, it's only fair to have both in an official correspondence to 928OC Members using the email addresses you are given access to as the 928OC NC Region representative.

Of course, it could be an issue with my email, I will double check that....especially since I noticed from the list of e-mail addresses you sent it too that it appears James has moved to North Carolina.....or accidentally was added to the list of 928OC NC Region recipients :-) LOL

Cheers,

Dave