Beautiful 86.5 S in Roseville CA for $3300
07-25-2012, 12:58 PM
#31
Race Car
&^^ haha, nice to see that the margin estimated between investment and return is narrower than the usual touchstone phrase posted up here- makes it a bargain, right? 
Or maybe that's just becasue the quote keeps the purchase price separate.
Or maybe that's just becasue the quote keeps the purchase price separate.
07-25-2012, 01:03 PM
#32
The words being used and the phrases belie an ignorance of the car. I have a set of heads just sitting there for the car if the rest is usable. A fueling problem on a road car of this HP does not crack heads. Cooling maybe, but I don't see how 14psi cracks heads
My dad's feedback:
I stopped by his shop and looked at the car.
It is fairly clean with a good body. Dark Blue paint that is not perfect but not bad. A few rock chips on the front.
Good tires
Interior is not too bad.
The mechanic said it has the transmission replaced recently and the timing belt and rollers replaced as well.
He did not know about the air.
It has 104,000 miles on it.
However it does have a cracked head, not a head gasket.
I talked to [brother] about it and he advised me to stay away as he has worked on the engines before and they require specialty skills and special tools.
He said because it has aluminum cylinders, they are a real problem to rebuild. He also said the head cracked for a reason. I could spend $5,000 on repairing one head and then the other one could also be bad. He suspected that either a cooling problem or fuel system problem most likely caused the first one to crack and if unidentified the other one could also crack or it would do it again.
He indicated by the time I was done I could end up spending another $15k on it for a car that would be worth $13.
It would be a good buy for someone, but I don’t think I want to take the risk.
I stopped by his shop and looked at the car.
It is fairly clean with a good body. Dark Blue paint that is not perfect but not bad. A few rock chips on the front.
Good tires
Interior is not too bad.
The mechanic said it has the transmission replaced recently and the timing belt and rollers replaced as well.
He did not know about the air.
It has 104,000 miles on it.
However it does have a cracked head, not a head gasket.
I talked to [brother] about it and he advised me to stay away as he has worked on the engines before and they require specialty skills and special tools.
He said because it has aluminum cylinders, they are a real problem to rebuild. He also said the head cracked for a reason. I could spend $5,000 on repairing one head and then the other one could also be bad. He suspected that either a cooling problem or fuel system problem most likely caused the first one to crack and if unidentified the other one could also crack or it would do it again.
He indicated by the time I was done I could end up spending another $15k on it for a car that would be worth $13.
It would be a good buy for someone, but I don’t think I want to take the risk.
07-25-2012, 01:05 PM
#33
An someone better be getting something very special for 5k for repairing a head
07-25-2012, 01:28 PM
#34
Under the Lift
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What is really wrong? Is it just an external coolant leak from a crack? I've seen cracks near freeze plugs. Replace the head.
If there is evidence the leak is internal (white smoke out the tailpipe), it could be a lot more. But I'm not sure what [brother] means by "specialty skills and special tools". If I can rebuild one of these motors with some assistance, just about anybody can. Work on the heads, such as welding, resurfacing, a valve job is ALWAYS sub'd out to a shop that has the "specialty skills and special tools" whether it's a small block Chevy or one of our motors.
If there is evidence the leak is internal (white smoke out the tailpipe), it could be a lot more. But I'm not sure what [brother] means by "specialty skills and special tools". If I can rebuild one of these motors with some assistance, just about anybody can. Work on the heads, such as welding, resurfacing, a valve job is ALWAYS sub'd out to a shop that has the "specialty skills and special tools" whether it's a small block Chevy or one of our motors.
07-25-2012, 01:47 PM
#35
Three Wheelin'
Buy it & wait for the December 1/2 off sale...
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07-26-2012, 12:58 AM
#36
Burning Brakes
Owner has had it 14 years and has been conscientious about maintenance. He said he recently had wp/tb and it was due for a retensioning when it started running rough.
He wouldn't say to me that it was a cracked head, only that it was at the shop and the mechanic didn't know what was wrong. The leak is in the spark plug hole for the #4 cylinder. I would assume a cracked head. He has not driven it since it started running rough - had it towed to the mechanic. He said he never had any overheating issues before this and since he shut it down immediately, doesn't know how much coolant it is losing.
He said he has no oil or fluid leaks anywhere. It sounds like all systems work, including both front and rear a/c. Body is straight, no accidents. There is wear on the driver bolster but he said it was not through the leather.
He says he has someone named Art Ricker coming from Washington State to look at it this weekend. I'm not sure if that's anyone here.
I'm passing because it sounds more worn than the pictures show and there are so many costly variables that I don't know: fuel lines, intake refresh, shocks, motor mounts, opg, heads, cam gears... All of these I have already done on my car.
I think I want to focus on a well-sorted 5-speed 86.5 in a good color. Meteormetallic with gray-green interior would be my dream.
Matt
Last edited by leperboy; 07-26-2012 at 01:09 PM.
07-26-2012, 01:22 AM
#37
Burning Brakes
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FWIW, my dad was a mechanic for the first half of his adult life. I remember being a toddler waiting outside a gas station garage for him to get off work. When I was 7 or 8 he was rebuilding model-Ts and model-As. He made me rebuild the engine on his Ford Courier before he gave it to me when I turned sixteen. He and I rebuilt my second car, a lowered dual-carb '72 Super Beetle that had been rear-ended and shoved into another car --required all four fenders replaced and front and back body segments, plus a new engine. He straightened the frame on a Golf I drove into a fire-truck in my 20's. He's owned a '55, '56 and '57 Chevy. I particularly remember his midnight blue '67 Firebird. My uncle, his [brother], had his name (and his name alone) under "Pit Crew" on the side of Gary Cornwall's 8000 horsepower Top Fuel dragster when he held the quarter-mile record at Sacramento raceway in the 80's. He retired early after making a mint from his machine-shop in Reno. They went to school with the Yuill Bros. If there's anyone I trust when it comes to cars, it's these two guys (and Bill Ball), despite my bitterness at them for not doing a LeMons car with me.
Last edited by 3000teeth; 07-26-2012 at 03:36 AM.
