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Old 05-07-2012, 09:22 PM
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Default Funny stainless steel fastener companies reply to my question

I was browsing eBay for exhaust stud kits for our cars out of curiousity and i saw some aftermarket SS studs with locking nuts (no washer). Immediately spotting the issue of SS into aluminum for any length of time, i asked the seller/manufacturer about the product:

9090666 sent a message about PORSCHE 928 16 V
EXHAUST STUD
KIT-- STAINLESS #350418792827
Dear charger440rt,

I noticed these
are not cadmium plated. This is very important seeing as the
928 engine is
almost entirely aluminum/alusil, won't these studs corrode?

Thanks

The Reply:
Dear 9090666,

Stainless does not corrode

John Martin
MMS &
Accessories

Just thought i'd share it, as pointless as it may be.
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i have used them for lots of stuff of diff cars. good people.

how long would it take for the corrosion to happen any way?
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I just bought a stainless steel rod from McMaster and cut it into studs. Was that a bad idea? It seemed to work just fine and now I have all stainless hardware on the exhaust system including the EGR valve mounting bolts. Given how rusty everything was on the exhaust this seemed like a decent solution.
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I thought you guys would react differently to this. You guys are usually meticulous aren't you?? I remember the time i suggested radiator alternatives to the stock Behr unit and people acted like i just kicked their dog. The thing i was thinking of was long term corrosion... sure it may be fine for a year or two but from what i've read the galvanic reaction welds the dissimilar metals together. Which could turn into a costly pair of unsalvageable heads. However, could it be true that the corrosion only happens with poor quality SS?
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My recollection is that stainless fasteners into aluminum isn't that bad. Aluminum in stainless corrodes a lot more. There is some metallurgical explanation for the difference. Still, cad plated would be better.
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
I remember the time i suggested radiator alternatives to the stock Behr unit and people acted like i just kicked their dog.
There is a big difference between discussing various materials for fasteners and shoe-horning in a radiator from a Pontiac.
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Shoe horning or not... it can and will be done.
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
Shoe horning or not... it can and will be done.
Good for you!! Nobody said it couldn't be done. Friend of mine has a big block Olds Toranado drivetrain in a 50's Beetle.

No matter how you slice it or justify it, still going to be considered a hack job by most. If you don't care, then go ahead.

Just like some people who feel it's ok to cut holes in the fender to make clutch jobs easier.
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Just like some people who feel it's ok to cut holes in the fender to make clutch jobs easier.
That makes me ill. A real man would pull the engine.
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A real man would pull the engine.
I pulled the engine and it was still a huge pain in the ***. What does that make me?
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I pulled the motor by myself... Hacker-IMO there is a huge difference in what you said. I'm talking about fitting a radiator that will use most of the stock mounting methods. I pulled my motor without any cutting/breaking (apart from the usual expendables that disintegrate when you touch them), i don't think it's that hard if you're methodical about it. I think it will be a nice clean job personally.


No hard feelings Hacker, to each his own.
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
My recollection is that stainless fasteners into aluminum isn't that bad. Aluminum in stainless corrodes a lot more. There is some metallurgical explanation for the difference. Still, cad plated would be better.
Bill,

The cad plated studs I took out were a mess. From what I understand is cad plating is obsolete due to toxicity to humans. The plating company I took the hardware to uses zinc and then cromate to duplicate the look of cad. They also offer bright zinc plating.
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I'd love to get a solid answer from somebody that actually knows metal etc., but pretty clearly the 928 seems to have some unique corrosion issues.
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
I pulled the motor by myself... Hacker-IMO there is a huge difference in what you said. I'm talking about fitting a radiator that will use most of the stock mounting methods. I pulled my motor without any cutting/breaking (apart from the usual expendables that disintegrate when you touch them), i don't think it's that hard if you're methodical about it. I think it will be a nice clean job personally.


No hard feelings Hacker, to each his own.
17 p b. why did you have to pull your motor.IIRC your car was $10k and in pretty good shape?


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