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Old 03-23-2012, 06:00 PM
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Old 03-23-2012, 06:35 PM
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I think you meant to say "Calling Doc Brown"

Or did Rob figure out where are that stuff goes on his own?

Looks like high anxiety to me!
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Rob posted a hardware spreadsheet that will help.
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In advance of Rob's arrival, my amateur method starts off with ID'ing as much as you can of the hard parts and fittings, and getting them tagged/bagged and off the table. Brackets, a few of the larger and more obvious bolts, the specialty washers, the FI nozzle clips, stuff like that is pretty easy to ID right up front.


But... I don't see any suspension or body/trim fasteners in that pile. Didja forget some?
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Was there anything that didn't get plated...?

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Old 03-23-2012, 06:47 PM
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Separate out all the bolts from the non-bolts, then separate the M6 from M8 from M10 from M12, then lay out each pile by ascending length. Then grab a mm ruler and use the torque values spreadsheet to figure out where each one goes. They should pretty much all be on there.

Then post pics of the mystery leftovers.


EDIT: The hardest part are all the washers. Take one long M6/8/10/12 bolt and 'collect' all the washers on them, then segregate by OD and thickness. You will end up with more leftovers here than anything else. FWIW, Greg can tell you whether a given washer is correct for a given location/use, I'm not there yet. I'd put one in his hand, and he'd say, nah, that's not it....
Old 03-23-2012, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 86'928S MeteorGrey
Or did Rob figure out where are that stuff goes on his own?
I'm counting on it!

Originally Posted by mark anderson
Rob posted a hardware spreadsheet that will help.
Yes! Good call, I have it but didn´t think about it.

Originally Posted by dr bob
In advance of Rob's arrival, my amateur method starts off with ID'ing as much as you can of the hard parts and fittings, and getting them tagged/bagged and off the table. Brackets, a few of the larger and more obvious bolts, the specialty washers, the FI nozzle clips, stuff like that is pretty easy to ID right up front.


But... I don't see any suspension or body/trim fasteners in that pile. Didja forget some?
The challenge will be the smaller bolts and washers I´m sure.

As for suspension and body/trim: I am limiting this to the front-end and top-end refresh. But this plating wish is a disease I tell you. I must have gone back to the engine bay 10 times to see what else I can take off since it will all be one batch at the platers anyway.

Originally Posted by Alan
Was there anything that didn't get plated...?
The airpump pulley and the A/C pulley, they are black originally Too bad the intake isn't steel. I'd plate it.

Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Separate out all the bolts from the non-bolts, then separate the M6 from M8 from M10 from M12, then lay out each pile by ascending length. Then grab a mm ruler and use the torque values spreadsheet to figure out where each one goes. They should pretty much all be on there.

Then post pics of the mystery leftovers.
Sounds like a plan! The good thing about the spreadsheet is, the bolts can be sorted to size.

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EDIT: The hardest part are all the washers. Take one long M6/8/10/12 bolt and 'collect' all the washers on them, then segregate by OD and thickness. You will end up with more leftovers here than anything else. FWIW, Greg can tell you whether a given washer is correct for a given location/use, I'm not there yet. I'd put one in his hand, and he'd say, nah, that's not it....
Wow. I'd say if the ID is close to the shank OD and the OD is a bit larger than the head, it's good to use.
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For those that are doing a TB and/or Intake refresh, it is really worth doing this plating thing. It doesn't cost much and cleans up the look. I first started cleaning all parts with some metal polish, but after a few hours and seeing the results, I said no way - bring it to the platers. One day later this is the result.
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Wow. I'd say if the ID is close to the shank OD and the OD is a bit larger than the head, it's good to use.
I guess what I mean is that there are a lot of M10 and M12 suspension bolt washers that vary a lot in thickness and OD, that you want to put in the right spots.

Some day I'm gonna take a week at Anderson's and dismantle a poorly maintained (ie- not disassembled much) S4 and take notes on bolt head markings and washer dimensions. I am working on extracting all the hardware from Mark's (MBMB's) great 87-91 S4 PET spreadsheet (https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...928-parts.html) and merging it with the torque values spreadsheet. Then all we need is washer dimensions and anyone oughta be able to disassemble and reassemble a 928 without any leftovers.


OCD? Yes.
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Originally Posted by Leon Speed
For those that are doing a TB and/or Intake refresh, it is really worth doing this plating thing. It doesn't cost much and cleans up the look. I first started cleaning all parts with some metal polish, but after a few hours and seeing the results, I said no way - bring it to the platers. One day later this is the result.
Did you inventory them before plating? Or, at least do a piece count? Are you sure you got them all back?
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
I guess what I mean is that there are a lot of M10 and M12 suspension bolt washers that vary a lot in thickness and OD, that you want to put in the right spots.
For this batch luckily I measured the odd size washers, so at least I have that
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Originally Posted by depami
Did you inventory them before plating? Or, at least do a piece count? Are you sure you got them all back?
The larger pieces are all there. As for the bolts, nuts, washers, I assume they are all there. If not, I'll find out during assembly.



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