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Old 02-10-2012, 04:58 PM
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It is manual in that you position the glass yourself - not electric adjustable from in the car.
For most of us once the glass is positioned it never gets moved again.
The motors are left out and the correct manual adjustment base screwed in place. Then manual adjust mirrors are used.
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Originally Posted by White Lightnin'
IIRC, the 90-91's also had flag mirrors... so they should be the same?

I have been told it takes a lot of ingenuity/trial & error to figure which new wire performs the same function as the old wire (colors are different).

I left mine manual for that very reason...
It is extremely difficult (electrically) to install Aero mirrors in a Pre S4 car. However for an S4 '87 & up the conversion is actually quite easy - its just a wire mapping issue - I would not say that is hard at all - just a little time consuming.

It is actually possible to simply swap the motors from the S4 Flags over to the Aeros to maintian the same connectors. (Again this doesn't work on pre S4 cars - the motors & attach mechanisms are very different mechanically & electrically. I know they look the same - under the skin they are not.

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Originally Posted by 77tony
Starting to think that the flag mirrors don't look to bad. T
I'm starting to think maybe I'll take my aero mirrors off, sell them, and put the flag mirrors back on.
Old 02-10-2012, 05:25 PM
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So a manual set of aero mirrors for an OB (78 to 86) is a good way to go.
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I guess I am going to have to retire in order to start getting with all of these projects that keep cropping up for me to consider.

Actually, I have been watching this thread from early this morning and have had just about the same thought as suggested herein, and that is why not work up the tooling, molds, or whatever, for duplicating the Aero mirror bodies, but do it with the flag mirror bottom on them so they will simply mate up to the flag mirror bases. Then why not reshape the innards of the flag mirror so if will fit into the aero body and then stick the aero shape mirrors on them.

I think the bodies could be made of fiberglass, carbon fiber, or even investment cast in aluminum. The molds would be just about the same for use with any of those materials.

I have two sets of Aero mirrors I have accumulated for my projects off eBay, and I have a small pile of flag mirrors that I have accumulated the same way, but I don't remember why. I think I could use any of that to help work up the molds; but it is going to be a while before I take this on as a project because I know what the need is for the WW liners that I need to get finished, and soon, I hope.

Thanks for thinking of me.

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I got mine from Garrity at Motorsports (Dave Lomas) for $817.00 powered with adapters and painted to match my car.
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Originally Posted by LEADASS
I got mine from Garrity at Motorsports (Dave Lomas) for $817.00 powered with adapters and painted to match my car.
Recently? Because that is a smoking deal at today's prices.

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Old 02-10-2012, 08:34 PM
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Just over a year ago, have they gone up that much? When I got mine I looked everywhere, they were the best price (Roger didn't have any at the time).
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Did I see a set of Miata that seemed to look Ok or was it a dream?
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IMO it was a bad dream...

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Originally Posted by ROG100
Spent most of yesterday putting together some aero mirror kits.
Currently the 928 aero mirror kit sells from us for $598. Includes everything but the mirrors.
Go figure they supply an aero mirror kit with no mirrors.
The mirrors add another $180 to the price. So slightly less than $800.

I have put together a manual set for about $600 if any one is interested. All Porsche parts.

I am working on the set of 968 mirrors which are electric and I sell for $511 and they need the two 928 bases and gaskets. They still come complete with the mirrors. That adds about $100 but $200 cheaper than the 928 set.

I think Porsche will go the same way on all sets soon so grab them while you can.
EM sent
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All this talk made me curious about the set of mirrors I bought for the GT a few years ago but never quite got around to installing . For whatever it's worth, here's the parts list and some pics of all the bits. Holler if anyone ever needs detail pics of any pieces....

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#	Description	Part No.	PET diagram 809-11 #
1	Mirror housing- left, primed	965 731 243 00 G2M	1
1	Mirror housing- right, primed	965 731 244 00 G2M	1
1	Mirror base - left, primed	928 731 241 00 G2M	2
1	Mirror base - right, primed	928 731 242 00 G2M	2
1	Mirror base gasket- left	965 731 143 00	8
1	Mirror base gasket- right	965 731 144 00	8
1	Mirror reinforcement plate (black), left	965 731 245 01	3
1	Mirror reinforcement plate (black), right	965 731 246 01	3
4	countersunk head screws - for reinforcement plates	999 919 109 02	4
1	Mirror glass, planar/flat- left	965 731 035 00	11
1	Mirror glass- convex right	965 731 038 01	11
2	Mirror motors	928 604 901 00	5
6	oval head screws M3 x 30	900 278 013 02	5A
2	mirror base big pins	965 731 257 00	6
2	big compression springs	965 731 259 00	7
2	lower centering washer (larger)	965 731 345 00	9
2	upper centering washer (smaller)	965 731 347 00	10
15	pins	999 652 496 12	13
1	mirror base gasket (desk pad)- left	965 731 247 00	14
1	mirror base gasket (desk pad)- left	965 731 247 01	14
2	mirror base gasket (desk pad)- right	965 731 248 00	14
2	threaded piece (brass threaded cylinder piece…)	928 531 235 03	15.00
2	pan head screw micro self locking M5 x 45	999 218 073 02	16
2	washer (plastic) for above 5.1 x 8.5 x 2	999 025 233 40	17
2	pin connector socket- 6 pole	964 612 516 00	21
2	plug socket, 6-pole	964 612 616 00	22
2	15 pole plug socket	928 612 515 01	23
2	plug socket connector-15 pole	928 612 615 00	24
6	round connector pins 0.5-1.0	N 017 564 1	after 24
Everything:



Small bits in the 'extra' bag:

Old 02-11-2012, 09:17 PM
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Very nice Rob. Never use the power function on the current mirrors on the GTS, so I just went ahead and ordered a manual set from Rog. Less to go wrong, a little less $$, and a little less wiring running through Just Peachy. T
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When I got mine all installed and was ready to put the mirrors on, both my mirrors had the 965 part number, apparently they were for the RSAmerica. Found that odd so Roger added those to his list of manual parts he can get.
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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather
I guess I am going to have to retire in order to start getting with all of these projects that keep cropping up for me to consider.

Actually, I have been watching this thread from early this morning and have had just about the same thought as suggested herein, and that is why not work up the tooling, molds, or whatever, for duplicating the Aero mirror bodies, but do it with the flag mirror bottom on them so they will simply mate up to the flag mirror bases. Then why not reshape the innards of the flag mirror so if will fit into the aero body and then stick the aero shape mirrors on them.

I think the bodies could be made of fiberglass, carbon fiber, or even investment cast in aluminum. The molds would be just about the same for use with any of those materials.

I have two sets of Aero mirrors I have accumulated for my projects off eBay, and I have a small pile of flag mirrors that I have accumulated the same way, but I don't remember why. I think I could use any of that to help work up the molds; but it is going to be a while before I take this on as a project because I know what the need is for the WW liners that I need to get finished, and soon, I hope.

Thanks for thinking of me.

Jerry Feather
But they still have to buy the lenses, which are expensive at about 80$ to $100 each. Then how much are the mechanism to hold the lens inside the housing, can one from a flag mirror be used? Before you know it price will get very close to a good used set or maybe even a new set. There is a reason why you don't see people duplicating the aero mirror set and selling them for less than Porsche prices, after all the molding does not seem to be very hard to make for the housing and base, because even if you get the housing and base for cheaper than Porsche then you have to spend bucks on getting the individual small pieces to make them functional. Once you start ordering parts individually they end up expensive as compared to getting them in a kit. Used sets can be found from 250 to 300 add another 100 for a new set of 928 bases and gasket. In the end you will have the correct part that also looks right, also the flag bases are too boxy looking for the smooth shape of the aero mirrors....


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