andy-gts

Sterling are you out there??

brutus

Somehow the logic of this escapes me...Jerry Feather quote "For example, if you have a 928 hood that you have designed a modification for, you might take about three spare hoods to three different places and give them all a try at the modification at the same time, perhaps with a sort of contest amoungst them that they donn't even know about, but in which the first one done wins and the others loose with you picking up the hoods that have not been modified or even only partly by the deadline. "
Sounds more like three times the hassel and potential expense if all three finish the project.

Abby Normal

Been there, done that, overcame! Takes a strong will to 'Hot Rod' a 928.

Jerry Feather

Brutus, you failed to notice that that logical senario was only a suggestion of how a hobby would work that has the purpose of ferreting out the trades people who can do the fabricating for you on any given concept or design. I would expect that one engaged in that kind of unusual hobby would be interested in investing something in it besides their time, such as three spare hoods at about $100 to $150 each accumulated over time off eBay. Then, if the senario you suggest plays out what a wonderful success that would be to the hobby in finding three excellent fabricators all in the same endeavor. Then, the hobbiest could simply "vend" the extra hoods through this group or back on eBay as a byproduct of the hobby, much as I try to do with some of my creations which, in fact, I almost always try to develop so they are duplicatable, rather than just one-off.

Again, in my example the hobby is not the creation but the finding of qualified, honest and capable tradespeople. Even though that may not be the best way to do this odd kind of hobby, and it may not even be the way I would do it, but do you see the logic now?

Actually I really don't expect Sterling to have anything to do with my second "odd hobby" idea, but I suggested it only to help him see that he needs to find a better way of dealing with the frustration of relying on others for just about anything of substance. The only way I have found to do that is what amounts to my alternate suggestion, and that is simply by putting myself in the position where I don't have to, almost at all. To do that takes a lot of time and effort, but I find that it is really worth it.

Jerry Feather

the flyin' scotsman

or longer

dream of superchargers, ducati 888s, Play guitar, fly RC helis, tie flies for next years season, shovel snow, go ice fishing, skiing, skating and look at wild life:

Bill Ball

I have had a big problem trusting others to do the right thing, so I took the route of doing it wrong myself.

928er

taking projects to 3 different places and paying 3 different shops to do the same work is insane. You pay for it and I will give it a shot. These are not $100 hood projects. hand forming aluminium is not molding plastic bits in a blow oven..... (no offense meant)

polecat702

Hand forming aluminum, isn't that difficult once you know how to work different gages of the metal. I always make a fullsize mockup, of the parts or panels to get the correct fit plus a nmock up of the panel to be created or replacement panel. On fenders you must make a frame work of the original, otherwise the copy will be smaller if using the original part. you cannot, use origional parts to make a mold either. They'll always be a little smaller, and won't fit correctly.

I also use patterns. It just takes time a patience.

My signage and statue work is all over Las Vegas. You just can't beat 45 years xperience.

Jerry Feather

Sorry to see your poor attitude about this, Sterling. I see that you too missed the point and that you have way underestimated what I might be capable of in terms of fabrication in many more mediums and processes than you might have seen on this forum. I have hand formed more aluminum in the aviation field and done more structural and aerodynamic aluminum fabrication and aircraft restoration than I suspect you will ever conceive of or try to do. Aside from that, (no offense taken).

Jerry Feather

jeff spahn

I'll just stand out of the stream of **** that was just shot.

Jerry Feather

Now, there is someone who finally got the point. JF

Jerry Feather

Not well written. I should have said something like "finally, someone who can understand "A" point. I never intended to **** on Sterling in what I had to say about what I thought his problem was. Only when he chose to put me down in respect to what I might know and have to say about his situation did it occur to me to say what I did about his last post.

Jerry Feather

Nicole

Jerry Feather

Hi Nicole. If only you had said something, I might have been able to suggest that there was some calming factor in this discussion. I don't like being the bad guy in these threads, but I can't help myself in offering what I would hope is my invited and limited wisdom about the subject. It is limited, but I don't think it is invalid. At least no one had shown that it is invalid.

Nice to hear from you in this, in any case.

Jerry Feather

Bill Ball

So, is this any more than a whole lot of frustration trying to get some serious fabrication done right? I don't quite see how the particular hobby has anything to do with being disappointed and frustrated with the quality of work performed by others. I've been having quite a war with getting my yard relandscaped. I could do it myself but I decided to let others do it. Every time I go out to check their work I find some unbelieveably horrendous mistake - retaining walls that don't retain, sprinkler systems that don't sprinkle or sprinkle in the wrong places, work half-done and abandoned. That's when they have done any work. They disappear for 3 weeks at a time then show up one day and proceed to make another mess of things. My wife cannot tolerate the stress of managing this project. She'd rather do nothing to our sorry yard. So far I've spent over $40K and the yard is still a mess. Want to take up gardening?

Anyway, I appreciate that you have put yourself out on the bleeding edge, trying to realize what you see in your creative vision and it appears it has not all worked out as you imagined. I can feel your disappointment. Still, I thought you had achieved quite a bit even if some of your projects did not quite work out. Last time I saw your car it sure seemed remakably nice to me. You've had to work through some rough challenges, like when the car was rear-ended. I thought you showed remarkable resilience then and again after the variocam failure. You seem to have an excellent plan B with the ITBs. I hope you can figure out how to get around the problems your are facing now.