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Old 08-29-2011, 04:59 PM
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I am looking for the panel pictured. Anybody willing to cut one out and send it to me?
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:45 PM
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Are you serious?

If you have the skills to replace a patch panel in that location, the you have the skills to repair that rusted out spot with out cutting the car up.

Not a place to be starting out trying on as far as cutting parts out and welding them in.

My $.02 worth.
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Just want it to last, looks like someone has already gone the route of bondo.
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Just want it to last, looks like someone has already gone the route of bondo.
I would not call bondo a repair.

To do it right you need a fender, and that is not for the weak of heart, not even sure you can get a fender from Porsche for that car any more.

If it were mine I would either replace the fender or make patch panels to fit and weld up the holes that were left.
The reason I say that is you really do not want to disturb the area where the window seal goes into unless you have to, that will be a bitch to get lined up right and sealed.

A welder and filler will be needed to do this.

We have a couple of good body guys that will chime in I am sure.
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Originally Posted by blown 87
Are you serious?

If you have the skills to replace a patch panel in that location, the you have the skills to repair that rusted out spot with out cutting the car up.

Not a place to be starting out trying on as far as cutting parts out and welding them in.

My $.02 worth.
Plus a whole bunch on this one.

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Originally Posted by por85928
Just want it to last, looks like someone has already gone the route of bondo.
This is not a bondo repair nor is it a fender replacement repair. There is a whole lot that can be done with a torch and some small pieces of sheet metal that can repair this spot without either of the above.

The window will have to come out, and the area cleaned up to see just how far trhe rust has gone, then fashion the necessary small pieces of sheet metal that will be needed to weld into the area.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather
This is not a bondo repair nor is it a fender replacement repair. There is a whole lot that can be done with a torch and some small pieces of sheet metal that can repair this spot without either of the above.

The window will have to come out, and the area cleaned up to see just how far trhe rust has gone, then fashion the necessary small pieces of sheet metal that will be needed to weld into the area.

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To do this really right, here is just a small part of what is involved.



On yours there are other, simpler and cheaper ways.
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Its a complex fender. Its also possible to TIG a patch panel to perfection.

Its also an inexpensive yet cool car, as - is.

Keep your head held high on this one. Everybody suspects there is at least (purchase price)value in it, just mechanically.

A handful of enthusiasts willl have perfect, original cars.
Another couple handfuls have refreshed ones that amazing.

Many of us have a great deal of enjoyment just participating.
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Originally Posted by Landseer
Its a complex fender. Its also possible to TIG a patch panel to perfection.

Its also an inexpensive yet cool car, as - is.

Keep your head held high on this one. Everybody suspects there is at least (purchase price)value in it, just mechanically.

A handful of enthusiasts willl have perfect, original cars.
Another couple handfuls have refreshed ones that amazing.

Many of us have a great deal of enjoyment just participating.
With out a doubt, I would use a Mig on that though.
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The trick is getting someone who is good enough to butt weld in the patches (overlapping is for amateurs) and metal finish the area so all it needs is a very thin swipe of filler. All of which takes time and skill. As noted you wish to minimize the amount of metal replaced. Porsche used to sell portions of the 1/4 panel for just that reason. The bit around the gas filler might be easier to use a chunk of a 1/4 for the shape that should be easy to find and a small piece is pretty cheap to ship.....full 1/4s get expensive to ship.
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Originally Posted by blown 87
To do this really right, here is just a small part of what is involved.



On yours there are other, simpler and cheaper ways.
Greg - what is that item in the picture above the gas tank that flows up to the C pillar, and would otherwise be hidden behind the rear fender panel? Is that an auxillary tank of some sort?
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Originally Posted by linderpat
Greg - what is that item in the picture above the gas tank that flows up to the C pillar, and would otherwise be hidden behind the rear fender panel? Is that an auxillary tank of some sort?
Are you talking about the horizontal tank that goes aft from the B pillar?
If so, it is a vapor storage tank. (I think that is what it is any way)
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I'm sure this shows my ignorance but does anybody use lead anymore?

The factory used it, in the old days at least, but I think they had a special light weight lead.
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Lead is pretty much a lost art.....and it was HEAVY the term "lead sled" for those wild 50s chopped channeled frenched sectioned and molded cars really meant they were HEAVY .....


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