Newbie buys Euro 928S and needs startup advice
#17
First, welcome. Nice looking car. I have an '83 Euro. There are a couple of different trains of thought on the Euro cars being interference or not. All 16V cars pre 84 are supposedly non interference, but some have advised me that with the hotter cams in a Euro, the motor may be interference with just a small amount of carbon build up on the valves. I believe them to be non interference, but could possibly bend valves in a TB break, so be cautious.
As far as nothing happening on turning the key, maybe check the starter relay and go from there?
Here is a link to relay location info. The link is over on the left column...
http://www.928gt.com/default1.htm
Good luck.
As far as nothing happening on turning the key, maybe check the starter relay and go from there?
Here is a link to relay location info. The link is over on the left column...
http://www.928gt.com/default1.htm
Good luck.
#18
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From: Holden Beach and Winston-Salem, North Carolina 82 928 Euro S 5spd MOSS GREEN/CHAMPAGNE-04 996 C4S CONV TIP POLAR SILVER/METROPOL BLUE
I had the same problem last week. Check here https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...lay-chart.html
and here.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...begins-13.html
It's fixed now. Gunar
and here.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...begins-13.html
It's fixed now. Gunar
#19
Why is it everyone seems to have this uncontrollable urge to "see if it will start" when a car has been sitting for years?
Why not roll it down a hill and "see if the brakes work"?
Put it on a trailer and move it to a place to work on it and start cleaning. Drain the gas, flush the tank and all the lines, replace all the rubber hoses, pull the plugs and spray some atf in and wait a good 24 hrs before even trying to turn the crank with a ratchet. I wouldn't bother until I was doing the timing belt and water pump service.
Why not roll it down a hill and "see if the brakes work"?
Put it on a trailer and move it to a place to work on it and start cleaning. Drain the gas, flush the tank and all the lines, replace all the rubber hoses, pull the plugs and spray some atf in and wait a good 24 hrs before even trying to turn the crank with a ratchet. I wouldn't bother until I was doing the timing belt and water pump service.
#21
I'm no expert, but I did have an 81 euro for 8 years that had sat too long. I bought it non-running and messed around with the CIS off and on with no succuss, other than getting it running rough a few times. I'd say your biggest concern will be the fuel distributor. They have tiny passages inside that clog when fuel sits in them for a long time. They are very expensive new if you can even find one, very difficult to rebuild and find parts for, and hard to find anyone else that can rebuild properly.
That said, should be a nice car once you get it going. Take your time and enjoy!
That said, should be a nice car once you get it going. Take your time and enjoy!
#22
If you get one to start it confirms that there IS an engine....you can then check the trans and the brakes Doing a lot of work on an unknown car is a GREAT way to spend $12,000 on a $3,000 car or a $1,000 car......being told that it "used to run" is pretty meaningless.
#23
There's a lot of info on the web on rebuilding CIS fuel distributors. I remember a great page with lotso pix on an Alfa site, but I can't find it again. DOH!
There are these, as a start from a google search:
http://www.porsche928forums.com/down...CISRebuild.pdf
http://porsche928forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=108
CIS K-Jet rebuild. **taken from 928oc.com written by rich928**
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-shooting.html
CIS fuel distributor rebuilding/trouble shooting
http://forum.w116.org/mechanicals/fu...or-rebuild-kit
There are these, as a start from a google search:
http://www.porsche928forums.com/down...CISRebuild.pdf
http://porsche928forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=108
CIS K-Jet rebuild. **taken from 928oc.com written by rich928**
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-shooting.html
CIS fuel distributor rebuilding/trouble shooting
http://forum.w116.org/mechanicals/fu...or-rebuild-kit
#24
Why is it everyone seems to have this uncontrollable urge to "see if it will start" when a car has been sitting for years?
Why not roll it down a hill and "see if the brakes work"?Put it on a trailer and move it to a place to work on it and start cleaning. Drain the gas, flush the tank and all the lines, replace all the rubber hoses, pull the plugs and spray some atf in and wait a good 24 hrs before even trying to turn the crank with a ratchet. I wouldn't bother until I was doing the timing belt and water pump service.
Why not roll it down a hill and "see if the brakes work"?Put it on a trailer and move it to a place to work on it and start cleaning. Drain the gas, flush the tank and all the lines, replace all the rubber hoses, pull the plugs and spray some atf in and wait a good 24 hrs before even trying to turn the crank with a ratchet. I wouldn't bother until I was doing the timing belt and water pump service.
The "brakes" part is funny. So is the "See if it starts" syndrome.
You are the optimist. Jim is the pragmistist.
#26
I have an 80 Euro S with Auto, currently disassembled, so if you need detailed pics in the hidden corners of the engine bay or underneath, let me know. Mine was running, but needed a lot of PM and TLC, now on it's way to being a very nice runner. Enjoy it!
#27
You don't even need to pull the plugs to turn one of these over.
On the other hand, before I rotated the ones that were sitting, I added a little oil to each plug hole.
Key though is to vaccum arround each hole before and after pulling each plug.
Car sat X years, undisturbed, and it would be shame to introduce specks of sand to the cylinders during the process of awakening.