928 Parts Market Conditions?
11-09-2010, 10:50 PM
#31
Whoa.............
Someone please make sure that when he has his Cherrios in the morning, that no one takes a **** in them, please.
Someone please make sure that when he has his Cherrios in the morning, that no one takes a **** in them, please.
Isn't a 928 a 928 whether it's an OB or a GTS??? It still makes it a Porsche correct??
My opinion... parting out any porsche for any reason other than frame damage, accidents, rust, blown transmissions.... is just dumb....
BUT on the flip side you need a good parts base/suppliers to keep the others on the road and some cars must be sacrificed.
Yeah I'm an OB owner and I bought it simply for the fact that I..
A. Absolutely had to have a Porsche, my preference was 928 or 911.
B. Didn't matter what condition as long as there was ZERO frame damage (ie, accidents), and zero rust.
I bought her... I then PUSHED it home 2 blocks... and proceeded to troubleshoot and tear apart... I have rebuilt one vw jetta and sold it for parts money for the porsche, stripped a passat and sold it for parts money, and have completely built up an 86 4 drgl jetta gl, and am now considering selling it for parts $$ to complete my OB 928.
I shy'd away from the 32 v and later cars simply for the fact that I know they are more expensive mechanically and I am unwilling to have a Porsche in my garage that is anything less than jawdropping, hence why it was gutted nearly in the first week.
I have received criticism from people "oh its not a 32v or a 5 speed", really who gives a crap anyway. I wouldn't take a brand new honda over a Porsche anyday... and to be completely honest... I'd rather ride the bus than own a new cookie cutter car, and have to pay maintenance and insurance on something that looks like everyone else's car.
HP went up in later years, as did maintenance costs, and curb weights... So whether it's a 78 or a 95. Why does anybody really care? just b/c (for example) an 80 US auto "sunroof delete" is less desireable "To own" for resale value than a 95 GTS 5 speed. That does not mean that it is a ford festiva...
I would rather rebuild my 80 from ground up, than deal with the oil consumption problems of a GT or GTS motor. When my 80 is running I will know for an absolute fact that she will give me many many more years of service. If my t-belt ever slips... least I know I don't have to tear the engine apart to replace valves and inpect pistons, rings and cylinder walls.
I have been extremely picky and choosy as to what I have replaced... to keep costs down... I have rebuilt many of my own parts, I do all my own work, from hand sanding every last godforsaken spot weld on those friggin doors, to laying down the 3rd coat of gloss. Powerwashing the belly of the beast was another absolute prime moment of enjoyment. But I couldn't afford to do that with a GTS right now.... It's not in my budget. So am I cheap... Absolutely but I bust my *** making up for every last penny I saved working it off in labor to the car.
It's amazing how fickle the Porsche community is.
I resent the fact that some consider OB owners cheap.. and yes I see a couple rolling around town that fall deeply into that category.
I will buy parts off of cars that are local to me simply for the fact I can drive to go see and inspect and only have to put fuel in my ride. For all the other maintenance items I buy from our vendors "UNLESS" I need it now today... because I tend to be a spontaneous person by nature.
rant over.
My opinion... parting out any porsche for any reason other than frame damage, accidents, rust, blown transmissions.... is just dumb....
BUT on the flip side you need a good parts base/suppliers to keep the others on the road and some cars must be sacrificed.
Yeah I'm an OB owner and I bought it simply for the fact that I..
A. Absolutely had to have a Porsche, my preference was 928 or 911.
B. Didn't matter what condition as long as there was ZERO frame damage (ie, accidents), and zero rust.
I bought her... I then PUSHED it home 2 blocks... and proceeded to troubleshoot and tear apart... I have rebuilt one vw jetta and sold it for parts money for the porsche, stripped a passat and sold it for parts money, and have completely built up an 86 4 drgl jetta gl, and am now considering selling it for parts $$ to complete my OB 928.
I shy'd away from the 32 v and later cars simply for the fact that I know they are more expensive mechanically and I am unwilling to have a Porsche in my garage that is anything less than jawdropping, hence why it was gutted nearly in the first week.
I have received criticism from people "oh its not a 32v or a 5 speed", really who gives a crap anyway. I wouldn't take a brand new honda over a Porsche anyday... and to be completely honest... I'd rather ride the bus than own a new cookie cutter car, and have to pay maintenance and insurance on something that looks like everyone else's car.
HP went up in later years, as did maintenance costs, and curb weights... So whether it's a 78 or a 95. Why does anybody really care? just b/c (for example) an 80 US auto "sunroof delete" is less desireable "To own" for resale value than a 95 GTS 5 speed. That does not mean that it is a ford festiva...
I would rather rebuild my 80 from ground up, than deal with the oil consumption problems of a GT or GTS motor. When my 80 is running I will know for an absolute fact that she will give me many many more years of service. If my t-belt ever slips... least I know I don't have to tear the engine apart to replace valves and inpect pistons, rings and cylinder walls.
I have been extremely picky and choosy as to what I have replaced... to keep costs down... I have rebuilt many of my own parts, I do all my own work, from hand sanding every last godforsaken spot weld on those friggin doors, to laying down the 3rd coat of gloss. Powerwashing the belly of the beast was another absolute prime moment of enjoyment. But I couldn't afford to do that with a GTS right now.... It's not in my budget. So am I cheap... Absolutely but I bust my *** making up for every last penny I saved working it off in labor to the car.
It's amazing how fickle the Porsche community is.
I resent the fact that some consider OB owners cheap.. and yes I see a couple rolling around town that fall deeply into that category.
I will buy parts off of cars that are local to me simply for the fact I can drive to go see and inspect and only have to put fuel in my ride. For all the other maintenance items I buy from our vendors "UNLESS" I need it now today... because I tend to be a spontaneous person by nature.
rant over.
11-10-2010, 01:50 AM
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Can someone please lock this thread, I did not mean for this to turn into an argument or anything I was simply hoping to gain a bit of information which I did and now I'm very embarassed my thread has turned into such a hostile discussion. I'm very sorry.
11-10-2010, 01:53 AM
#33
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You should be able to lock the thread yourself as the original poster. Click on the thread tools option near the top. You should see an option to close the thread.
11-10-2010, 02:14 AM
#34
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The discussion has played-out many times.
Some choose a different side each time.
You had a legitimate question.
11-10-2010, 02:26 AM
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So there...
11-10-2010, 10:45 PM
#38
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Of course I don't mean all OB owners, but I am one of the cheap ones.
If OB owners aren't cheap, why did they buy an OB?
Why did they buy one that needs a lot of work?
Why are they here asking questions instead of handing a credit card to a dealer for service?
Why are they buying used parts?
Why are they buying used ELECTRICAL parts?
We aren't just cheap, not white, or red, or yellow belt, but black belt cheap. Day old bread, 99 cent store, whats the special at Denny's cheap.
If OB owners aren't cheap, why did they buy an OB?
Why did they buy one that needs a lot of work?
Why are they here asking questions instead of handing a credit card to a dealer for service?
Why are they buying used parts?
Why are they buying used ELECTRICAL parts?
We aren't just cheap, not white, or red, or yellow belt, but black belt cheap. Day old bread, 99 cent store, whats the special at Denny's cheap.
11-10-2010, 11:08 PM
#39
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What about us cheap S4 and OB owners? I don't mind throwing countless time and energy into my toys for no gain, but getting raped on parts prices as well just spoils the fun. Reasonable parts prices would be fine, but look at the price of a set of plug wires or a set of rings. Look at how much the dealer charges and how little they know. It's just messed up and the only way to keep it fun is to try to get the parts prices to balance out to a semi-reasonable number. None of us are hoping to make any money at this, just to have a little fun.
11-11-2010, 04:23 AM
#40
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Porsche cheap is still pretty expensive. 
I'm about to buy about $300 of more tools I never guessed I would need. (Mityvac evacuator, Stant cooling system tester and adapters, various smaller bits to reach free shipping)
I'm about to buy about $300 of more tools I never guessed I would need. (Mityvac evacuator, Stant cooling system tester and adapters, various smaller bits to reach free shipping)
11-11-2010, 07:28 AM
#41
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Of course I don't mean all OB owners, but I am one of the cheap ones.
If OB owners aren't cheap, why did they buy an OB?Because we have taste
Why did they buy one that needs a lot of work?Same reason we hook up with crazy women
Why are they here asking questions instead of handing a credit card to a dealer for service?Pretty sure that even with my poor skills, I will get closer to fixing it than a dealer
Why are they buying used parts?NLA, or unbelievable new prices
Why are they buying used ELECTRICAL parts?Crazy??
We aren't just cheap, not white, or red, or yellow belt, but black belt cheap. Day old bread, 99 cent store, whats the special at Denny's cheap.
If OB owners aren't cheap, why did they buy an OB?Because we have taste
Why did they buy one that needs a lot of work?Same reason we hook up with crazy women
Why are they here asking questions instead of handing a credit card to a dealer for service?Pretty sure that even with my poor skills, I will get closer to fixing it than a dealer
Why are they buying used parts?NLA, or unbelievable new prices
Why are they buying used ELECTRICAL parts?Crazy??
We aren't just cheap, not white, or red, or yellow belt, but black belt cheap. Day old bread, 99 cent store, whats the special at Denny's cheap.
Glad my wife does not read RL often.
11-11-2010, 10:53 AM
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