Hood Mods
Drifting
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From: Alberta, Canada
You know I really really love your guys cars. You have done so much and spent so much i can only say, I wish.
I really like your hood scoop Sterling and feel it will suit your car
But, I am not sure about hood mods,for me, yet, and only because I am a new owner and like the idea of owning a 928 and the look.
I had a guy stop me today when the miss got in the car and I was walking around to my side, he said "nice 928, what year is it".
I really like when people stop and have to ask, you know you have a super car then.
I wouldn't mind fattening up the rear wheels a 1/2 " or so but I want it to look stock
of course i'm going to work on the mechanical first (this winter)
OK so sterling you have a very beautiful car and I am without a doubt that anything you do to you car will be with class and extremely pimped out with style
I really like your hood scoop Sterling and feel it will suit your car
But, I am not sure about hood mods,for me, yet, and only because I am a new owner and like the idea of owning a 928 and the look.
I had a guy stop me today when the miss got in the car and I was walking around to my side, he said "nice 928, what year is it".
I really like when people stop and have to ask, you know you have a super car then.
I wouldn't mind fattening up the rear wheels a 1/2 " or so but I want it to look stock
of course i'm going to work on the mechanical first (this winter)
OK so sterling you have a very beautiful car and I am without a doubt that anything you do to you car will be with class and extremely pimped out with style
Nordschleife Master
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From: theporscheconnection.com
personally, i think one of the coolest things about the 928 is the absolute simplicity of the top of the front half of the car. The giant fender surfaces on top share the same slope and angle as the hood where it looks like just one giant slab of aluminum falling off the top of the car. There is no detailing, no creases, no nothing whatsoever on the top of the car, and I think its all the more interesting because of that.
I think vents ruin the look of that, scoops and humps even more so, but if you need more room under there then I dont think there is any ideal solution. Im sure with the way your doing it the results will be top notch.
Nordschleife Master
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From: theporscheconnection.com
I dont know how many people watch the auto shows on Saturdays on Spike TV. Its really red-necky, but they have been a learning source for me regardless of the cars they put together. I have seen about 10,001 ways to assemble axles.... meh!
Anyway, on the Muscle car show today they went through a pretty thorough step by step process of how to make a fiberglass hood using the original as a plug and modified it for a hood scoop.
In the end they made a pretty good looking part. It was only two layers thick and was incredibly floppy, but with 4 layers it becomes much more solid.
I dont know what all the chemicals they used would cost, but it was a pretty cool project and seems like it could be fun to play with at the very least.
Anyway, on the Muscle car show today they went through a pretty thorough step by step process of how to make a fiberglass hood using the original as a plug and modified it for a hood scoop.
In the end they made a pretty good looking part. It was only two layers thick and was incredibly floppy, but with 4 layers it becomes much more solid.
I dont know what all the chemicals they used would cost, but it was a pretty cool project and seems like it could be fun to play with at the very least.
Pro
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From: North Wales PA
Pro
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From: North Wales PA
Yes it is fiberglass. It is not bonded to the hood. It attaches in the same manner you are looking to do. It can be removed to repair or to access underneath. All of the body work is bolt on in case it is ever damaged.
Rennlist Member
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From: Frankenmuth, Michigan
Sterling,
I bet it looks fanastic in profile!
There's something not working for me... and I can see through the color difference (though photoshop could help visualization).
There is some really cool about the wide hood and fenders, all as one surface broken up by only thr recessed lamps.
I'm initial drawn to it, then to the perfect compound curves of the front fender. Then, in the case of your car, round aero mirrors and a rounded/wide rear side.
There's a continuity there, and I'm not seeing it with your hood.
I know you have alot of time in this and more than likely, you're not looking for my opinion.
None-the-less, I would be interested to see your concept sketches, which may help me understand the process that has led you to your current design.
I understand what you are doing is far from an easy undertaking.
I bet it looks fanastic in profile!
There's something not working for me... and I can see through the color difference (though photoshop could help visualization).
There is some really cool about the wide hood and fenders, all as one surface broken up by only thr recessed lamps.
I'm initial drawn to it, then to the perfect compound curves of the front fender. Then, in the case of your car, round aero mirrors and a rounded/wide rear side.
There's a continuity there, and I'm not seeing it with your hood.
I know you have alot of time in this and more than likely, you're not looking for my opinion.
None-the-less, I would be interested to see your concept sketches, which may help me understand the process that has led you to your current design.
I understand what you are doing is far from an easy undertaking.
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From: Frankenmuth, Michigan
Make sense... you bet! I been aware of your intent for years, man.
It my job to visualize deep into a design and see beyond the mockup, prototype. You give me an isometric sketch and I can layout compound curves in my head. I have to determine the difficult transitions, and try to see how I would execute them, before "painting myself into a corner". All the while, keeping focus on the intent - concept integrity.
I understand the hood is compound, and can see what you are talking about from the side. Like I said, I bet that looks fantastic!
And yes, hard to really capture its subtlety w/a pic.
My concern is in the transition to the risen edge (which if fine), and the hood - the hood cowl sidewall.
I think pitch toward the hood my be a touch agressive, or short.
It creates a small adjacent surface, the sidewall.... which is not "in relative scale" to the surfaces in proximity.
And since you don't want to raise the hood cowl any higher, how do you make that surface bigger? You make it wider.
Lay it down and transition it out to (or near) the side hood/fender-line.
Just a thought, and if you run it out to the fender edge, you essentially lose one edge... which will help continuity, also because the edge you lose is an inside edge.
In your current design, that inside edge is the "odd man out", because all other edges, fender, nose, are outside edges.
Also, by laying down the sidewall will make the hood cowl "feel wider, but not "look" wider, because you cowl ridgelines, which are fine.... are relatively narrow, and intact.
It my job to visualize deep into a design and see beyond the mockup, prototype. You give me an isometric sketch and I can layout compound curves in my head. I have to determine the difficult transitions, and try to see how I would execute them, before "painting myself into a corner". All the while, keeping focus on the intent - concept integrity.
I understand the hood is compound, and can see what you are talking about from the side. Like I said, I bet that looks fantastic!
And yes, hard to really capture its subtlety w/a pic.
My concern is in the transition to the risen edge (which if fine), and the hood - the hood cowl sidewall.
I think pitch toward the hood my be a touch agressive, or short.
It creates a small adjacent surface, the sidewall.... which is not "in relative scale" to the surfaces in proximity.
And since you don't want to raise the hood cowl any higher, how do you make that surface bigger? You make it wider.
Lay it down and transition it out to (or near) the side hood/fender-line.
Just a thought, and if you run it out to the fender edge, you essentially lose one edge... which will help continuity, also because the edge you lose is an inside edge.
In your current design, that inside edge is the "odd man out", because all other edges, fender, nose, are outside edges.
Also, by laying down the sidewall will make the hood cowl "feel wider, but not "look" wider, because you cowl ridgelines, which are fine.... are relatively narrow, and intact.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: SW Florida
Holy Sh*t Jim, I want to read your analysis of Jessica Alba's curvature! That was great reading.
Sterling can't wait to see the finished product
Sterling can't wait to see the finished product
Make sense... you bet! I been aware of your intent for years, man.
It my job to visualize deep into a design and see beyond the mockup, prototype. You give me an isometric sketch and I can layout compound curves in my head. I have to determine the difficult transitions, and try to see how I would execute them, before painting myself into a corner. All the while, keeping focus on the intent - concept integrity.
I undersyand the hood is compound, and can see what you are talking about from the side. Like I said, I bet that looks fantastic!
And yes, hard to really capture its subtlety w/a pic.
My concern is in the transition of the risen edge (which if fine) and the hood.
I think pitch toward the hood my be a touch agressive.
It creates a small adjacent surface, the sidewall.... which is not "in relative scale" to the surfaces in proximity.
And since you don't want to raise the hood cowl any higher, how do you make that surface bigger? You make it wider.
Lay it down and transition it out to (or near) the side hood-line.
Just a thought, and if you run it out to the fender edge, you essentially lose one edge... which will help continuity, also because the edge you lose is an inside edge.
In your current design, that inside edge is the "odd man out", because all other edges, fender, nose, are outside edges.
Also, by laying down the sidewall will make the hood cowl "feel wider, but not "look" wider, because you cowl ridgelines, which are fine.... are relatively narrow, and intact.
It my job to visualize deep into a design and see beyond the mockup, prototype. You give me an isometric sketch and I can layout compound curves in my head. I have to determine the difficult transitions, and try to see how I would execute them, before painting myself into a corner. All the while, keeping focus on the intent - concept integrity.
I undersyand the hood is compound, and can see what you are talking about from the side. Like I said, I bet that looks fantastic!
And yes, hard to really capture its subtlety w/a pic.
My concern is in the transition of the risen edge (which if fine) and the hood.
I think pitch toward the hood my be a touch agressive.
It creates a small adjacent surface, the sidewall.... which is not "in relative scale" to the surfaces in proximity.
And since you don't want to raise the hood cowl any higher, how do you make that surface bigger? You make it wider.
Lay it down and transition it out to (or near) the side hood-line.
Just a thought, and if you run it out to the fender edge, you essentially lose one edge... which will help continuity, also because the edge you lose is an inside edge.
In your current design, that inside edge is the "odd man out", because all other edges, fender, nose, are outside edges.
Also, by laying down the sidewall will make the hood cowl "feel wider, but not "look" wider, because you cowl ridgelines, which are fine.... are relatively narrow, and intact.
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From: Puyallup, WA
How about a profile shot Sterling? Between the angle of the 3/4 shot you posted and the color difference, it really maximizes the contrast between the car and the modded skin.
I get the feeling that it is a lot more subdued than what your pic shows.
I get the feeling that it is a lot more subdued than what your pic shows.
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From: DFW Texas
Can someone change the color on the photo to eliminate the difference in contrast, and delete or soften the line parallel to the fender line? Are you going to move the windshield washers to outboard of the new scoop? I think we talked about this but my memory fails me at the moment. Does the front edge of the scoop mimic the curveture of the front edge of the hood? I think I would like the front edge to blend to nothing so there is no distinctive edge or line.