Hood Mods
11-28-2010, 03:08 PM
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11-28-2010, 03:11 PM
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Sterling, looks great. I'm glad you have someone that has real patience enough to perform the blend between old and new. I say this all too often... its becoming a lost art.
11-28-2010, 03:21 PM
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If you want a proper design evaluation, you should contact "zrated S4".
He works for GM and was the chief stylist on the Cadillac XLR project.
Super nice guy and loves 928's!
He works for GM and was the chief stylist on the Cadillac XLR project.
Super nice guy and loves 928's!
11-28-2010, 04:14 PM
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Cowl induction hoods,by definition, are going to look like, well, cowl induction hoods.....Sterling's looks really good, considering the contour match needed for our hood, and his clearance requirements. The classic 69 Z-28 hood has been adapted to just about everything, and there just isn't any getting away from the fact that it looks like that- sometimes, form has to follow function.
My .02, nice job Sterling.
My .02, nice job Sterling.
11-28-2010, 04:19 PM
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11-29-2010, 02:52 PM
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Make sense... you bet! I been aware of your intent for years, man.
It my job to visualize deep into a design and see beyond the mockup, prototype. You give me an isometric sketch and I can layout compound curves in my head. I have to determine the difficult transitions, and try to see how I would execute them, before "painting myself into a corner". All the while, keeping focus on the intent - concept integrity.
I understand the hood is compound, and can see what you are talking about from the side. Like I said, I bet that looks fantastic!
And yes, hard to really capture its subtlety w/a pic.
My concern is in the transition to the risen edge (which if fine), and the hood - the hood cowl sidewall.
I think pitch toward the hood my be a touch agressive, or short.
It creates a small adjacent surface, the sidewall.... which is not "in relative scale" to the surfaces in proximity.
And since you don't want to raise the hood cowl any higher, how do you make that surface bigger? You make it wider.
Lay it down and transition it out to (or near) the side hood/fender-line.
Just a thought, and if you run it out to the fender edge, you essentially lose one edge... which will help continuity, also because the edge you lose is an inside edge.
In your current design, that inside edge is the "odd man out", because all other edges, fender, nose, are outside edges.
Also, by laying down the sidewall will make the hood cowl "feel wider, but not "look" wider, because you cowl ridgelines, which are fine.... are relatively narrow, and intact.
It my job to visualize deep into a design and see beyond the mockup, prototype. You give me an isometric sketch and I can layout compound curves in my head. I have to determine the difficult transitions, and try to see how I would execute them, before "painting myself into a corner". All the while, keeping focus on the intent - concept integrity.
I understand the hood is compound, and can see what you are talking about from the side. Like I said, I bet that looks fantastic!
And yes, hard to really capture its subtlety w/a pic.
My concern is in the transition to the risen edge (which if fine), and the hood - the hood cowl sidewall.
I think pitch toward the hood my be a touch agressive, or short.
It creates a small adjacent surface, the sidewall.... which is not "in relative scale" to the surfaces in proximity.
And since you don't want to raise the hood cowl any higher, how do you make that surface bigger? You make it wider.
Lay it down and transition it out to (or near) the side hood/fender-line.
Just a thought, and if you run it out to the fender edge, you essentially lose one edge... which will help continuity, also because the edge you lose is an inside edge.
In your current design, that inside edge is the "odd man out", because all other edges, fender, nose, are outside edges.
Also, by laying down the sidewall will make the hood cowl "feel wider, but not "look" wider, because you cowl ridgelines, which are fine.... are relatively narrow, and intact.
Sterling,
Here a quick model of what I was talking about....
11-29-2010, 03:03 PM
#39
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Looks like it would take some serious hand forming to do this. Basically have the front of the scoop start from nothing and continue to the windshield, all the while maintaining the full width of the hood.
11-29-2010, 03:39 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem. It's 3 facets welded together, and an english wheel.
11-29-2010, 05:43 PM
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Sterling,
I hope to goodness that you had extras made at the same time. The cost must be astonomical. The extras could be sold to offset the cost.
Then again....
There is something to be said about having the only one?
I hope to goodness that you had extras made at the same time. The cost must be astonomical. The extras could be sold to offset the cost.
Then again....
There is something to be said about having the only one?
Last edited by soontobered84; 11-29-2010 at 05:43 PM. Reason: sp
11-29-2010, 07:06 PM
#42
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Sterling,
Here a quick model of what I was talking about....
Attached Images
Regards,
Jim Doerr
Here a quick model of what I was talking about....
Attached Images
Regards,
Jim Doerr
11-29-2010, 08:13 PM
#43
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Sterling,
Do you have any pics of the wider cowl you could post?
I understand feathering and filleting the bonded edges. That's still not going to hide the abrupt high-pitch sidewall.
What's the max height nearest the cowl?
Do you have any pics of the wider cowl you could post?
I understand feathering and filleting the bonded edges. That's still not going to hide the abrupt high-pitch sidewall.
What's the max height nearest the cowl?
11-29-2010, 08:33 PM
#44
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^^^^^
Cool, that's where I modeled mine.
So do you have an pics of that early cowl from your shop - the wider one?
I'm really curious to see how they executed it.
Cool, that's where I modeled mine.
So do you have an pics of that early cowl from your shop - the wider one?
I'm really curious to see how they executed it.
