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Old 10-30-2010, 03:45 AM
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Question Brake Bias Valve Photo

Can anyone post a photo, ideally showing location? TIA
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Its mounted on the ABS hydraulic unit. See WM page 45-1, picture bottom left, item 8.
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At least on LHD cars, it's on the driver's side near the front by the power steering fluid reservoir. Not sure on RHD cars. Here you go:
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And IIRC, that brown thing there, is changable for other rear bias values..of which I will probly go up one step with.
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Thanks Jarrod for the photo and Smiffy for the swift reply.
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So which valve should S4 convert to GTS front brake use?
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
And IIRC, that brown thing there, is changable for other rear bias values..of which I will probly go up one step with.
Indeed it is. I should mention in case anyone notices the "33" stamped on mine, the stock 18 bar regulator has been replaced by this 33 bar version.
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Originally Posted by jthwan22
So which valve should S4 convert to GTS front brake use?
The bias valve for S4, GT and GTS are same..............18


I also changed to 33............much 'flatter' braking.

The 18 valve disconnected:
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There is also a 45 bar and a 55 bar brake bias valve. The 45 bar was used on the 964 cars, and some reports indicate it is no longer available. I have that valve on both my '94 GTS and my '89 S4 track car (obtained them from 964 owners who had changed to the 55 bar valve). Tried the 55 bar on the track car, and found it could frequently result in rear wheels overbraking in heavy braking whenever the rear of the car became unweighted (coming across a rise in the track). Went back to the 45, and I prefer it.

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I have the 55 bar on my GTS. I've had the rear lock up when the ABS turned itself off. I have externally adjustable Koni reds and have adjusted the rear rebound firmer to keep the weight on the rears longer to take advantage of the higher rear brake bias. Used the ABS off issue as an opportunity to adjust the rear rebound to keep the rears from locking up under threshold braking.

I like the rear being a little loose under heavy braking. It makes it easier to rotate the car into a 4 wheel drift on turn in. Optimal setup for me is the rear comes around when I turn in just as I start to lift on the brakes. Feathering in throttle checks the rear rotation and sets the 4 wheels drift towards the apex. Takes some practice to hit the braking zone to not overcook or over brake the turn in.

After an autocross event both my front and rear discs are a pretty blue that matches my car.
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Gary/ RKD.............would you recommend either the 45 or 55 valves for the street?

How is the overal braking compared to stock?
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For street I think the 33 would be just fine. You don't want to have the rear try to come around when braking up behind someone on a clover leaf ramp. Something you most definitely want to be prepared for when it happens.
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Malcom,

I agree with RKD when it comes to street S4's (unless the front calipers and rotors have been changed to the GTS size). With the significantly larger front brake rotors and calipers/pads, I wanted a bit more on the street GTS. I had a 33 in it for a while, but when I found a source for the second 45 bar, I bought it and made the change. I like it better on the GTS.

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Originally Posted by the flyin' scotsman
The bias valve for S4, GT and GTS are same..............18


I also changed to 33............much 'flatter' braking.

The 18 valve disconnected:
Hi

I wanted to confirm the part number for the 33lb valve, is it as per the box in your picture 928 355 305 02 which I believe is the part listed up to an 84 year?
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Originally Posted by Marti

Hi

I wanted to confirm the part number for the 33lb valve, is it as per the box in your picture 928 355 305 02 which I believe is the part listed up to an 84 year?
I can confirm that the 33lb valve I have fitted is 928 355 305 02

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