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Old 10-03-2010, 10:15 PM
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Its expensive because of many factors;

Original paint is very high quality, lesser quality is a bit obvious.
Porsche rubber parts need replacing at Porsche prices.
Lots of labor required for a good job, plus the car needs to sit for some time between stages and that takes up shop space.
Good paint isn't cheap.
Shop needs to know how to prep and paint polyurethane, aluminum, and steel.

At least on the East coast there are a few known good places.
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Originally Posted by mpesik
Just curious, what would it cost to change it over to flat black..just curious.
Xpel Technologies, a Rennlist sponsor, sells matte finish wraps for cars. Not positive on the price but I would think less than a repaint for sure.

http://www.autoteknika.com/paint-pro...-technologies/
Old 10-03-2010, 10:31 PM
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Back when I had a 911 alongside the 928's I used to see very clearly how simple a 911 is to paint ... there is almost nothing to remove compared to the 928's incredibly complicated bazillion bits and pieces
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Originally Posted by mpesik
Holy, $5000 and up ! Is it so expensive because of the car being a Porsche?
Read this thread. Be sure to pay attention to the dates and note how much time and effort was spent repainting the car. If you have to start replacing seals while you are doing it the price will go up really fast. The lower outer window seal is $150 for each side. The Inner window seal is $227 each side. The rear wing window seals are even more.
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The vehicle, if not for the decision of the flat black, will be painted the same color. What if an isolating coat is put on, then am I wrong to say the or all the paint is to be stripped?
-btw, Hello Fabio. Man it's been awhile . I hope everythings pretty good.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by S4ordie
Xpel Technologies, a Rennlist sponsor, sells matte finish wraps for cars. Not positive on the price but I would think less than a repaint for sure.

http://www.autoteknika.com/paint-pro...-technologies/
Thankyou for that information.
In my opinion anyways, I think the S4 with the cup 2 mags would look quite interesting in Matte.
My opinion.
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I had a shop in Chicago repaint my 944 for $1700 back in 2003 and it was actually a quite decent job.
There were some edge-peeling issues because of poor prep, and no trim was removed (only masked), but it turned out extremely well. I still have the car, which was covered in hail damage this summer, but aside from that tragedy the paint is still holding up really well, it is not dull or faded anywhere, and it sits in the Fresno sun quite a lot. I got a lot of complements on that car, it was absolutely worth the money I paid.

I think that there are many shops willing to cut a few corners and if you don't mind cheaper paint, it works out fine. I mean, in relation to a crummy dead old paint job. If you are trying to bring the car back to the condition of brand new, then, no, you cannot go this route, you have to pay the big bucks.

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Old 10-04-2010, 05:07 AM
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I keep thinking about:
1) pulling bumpers, mirrors, front fenders, rub strips, rain gutter, front cowl,hood, rear quarter glasses, locks, bumperettes, wipers etc.
2) Wet sanding and filling all of the painted parts to my satisfaction.
3) Putting all the parts in a rented U haul.
4) Delivering all the parts to MAACO or 1 day paint.
5) Having them put their best single stage paint job on the parts ($1000?)
6) Carting it home and reassembling with new bumper beads and mirror gaskets.

Left on might be: windshield trim, door window trim, hatch window trim. Just because I don't think I can get it off without damaging it. Or perhaps if I search I can find a turtorial on getting that stuff off such that it will go back on. Actually probalby just door trim as I think I probalby can get the other stuff off intact.

Perhaps I can find a better shop that will do the same thing, but with better paint (Imaron, or Deltron or something), although I think if you buy their better paint jobs the Maaco paint is probably OK.

Seems to me like 3 weekends of work and $1000 will do it. Keep in mind my cars are drivers so the paint job only has to be good enough that the flaws don't look as bad as the parking lot rash it will start to pick up within a few months. And the car has to be at least $1000 and 3 weekends better when I am done that when I started, but not look like it is factory new.

So, why won't this work?
Old 10-04-2010, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mpesik
Thankyou for that information.
In my opinion anyways, I think the S4 with the cup 2 mags would look quite interesting in Matte.
My opinion.
There's a Swedish guy on the list who has a matte-black S4.. might find a pic in the random pic thread - pretty sure its been posted in the last 3 months.
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Originally Posted by safulop
I had a shop in Chicago repaint my 944 for $1700 back in 2003 and it was actually a quite decent job.
There were some edge-peeling issues because of poor prep, and no trim was removed (only masked), but it turned out extremely well.
Porsche's are beautiful cars, so even a cheap paint job can look stunning at say twenty feet when its new. What costs the bucks is for that stunning look to continue as you walk toward the car.
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These posts here have pics of the matte-black car:

https://rennlist.com/forums/7781806-post4475.html

https://rennlist.com/forums/7781832-post4477.html
Old 10-04-2010, 06:09 AM
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Leo in San Diego is painting his in something close to matte, with I think a clear over it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...g-finally.html
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Porsche's are beautiful cars, so even a cheap paint job can look stunning at say twenty feet when its new. What costs the bucks is for that stunning look to continue as you walk toward the car.
Well, my $1700 job (plus plastic stone guards, $240 from Porsche) *did* look good close-up, and it was a base-clear job. As long as you didn't notice the couple places where the edge was rather obvious (the sunroof seal was trouble in spots), or the overspray all over the door-sills if you opened the door.

I'm not sure what is meant by "looks good at twenty feet," are you talking about the quality of the paint itself, like blemishes or poor layout and uneven sheen? My 944 had no issues of that kind. My hood, for instance, looked exactly like a brand new Porsche hood, up close. It was like a mirror.
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Originally Posted by heinrich
Back when I had a 911 alongside the 928's I used to see very clearly how simple a 911 is to paint ... there is almost nothing to remove compared to the 928's incredibly complicated bazillion bits and pieces
Man H , I have to disagree there. I would much rather disassemble any year 928 than any of the same year 911. I have painted many of both and the 911 is a bitch. Most of the fasteners break when you take them off-no matter how much you spray them and the window frames are time consuming as all hell, as well as there will always be some kind of rust on someones"rust free car" especially under the windshield. I love doing 911's because I love 911's, but 928 jobs go so much faster.
Old 10-04-2010, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by karl ruiter
I keep thinking about:
1) pulling bumpers, mirrors, front fenders, rub strips, rain gutter, front cowl,hood, rear quarter glasses, locks, bumperettes, wipers etc.
2) Wet sanding and filling all of the painted parts to my satisfaction.
3) Putting all the parts in a rented U haul.
4) Delivering all the parts to MAACO or 1 day paint.
5) Having them put their best single stage paint job on the parts ($1000?)
6) Carting it home and reassembling with new bumper beads and mirror gaskets.

Left on might be: windshield trim, door window trim, hatch window trim. Just because I don't think I can get it off without damaging it. Or perhaps if I search I can find a turtorial on getting that stuff off such that it will go back on. Actually probalby just door trim as I think I probalby can get the other stuff off intact.

Perhaps I can find a better shop that will do the same thing, but with better paint (Imaron, or Deltron or something), although I think if you buy their better paint jobs the Maaco paint is probably OK.

Seems to me like 3 weekends of work and $1000 will do it. Keep in mind my cars are drivers so the paint job only has to be good enough that the flaws don't look as bad as the parking lot rash it will start to pick up within a few months. And the car has to be at least $1000 and 3 weekends better when I am done that when I started, but not look like it is factory new.

So, why won't this work?
Why spend all that time/labor and expense for parts for a $1000 paint job? Seems counter productive to me. A good paint job should last at least 15 years if cared for and even a DD doesn't need to see excessive abuse. My DD is 1.5 years old now and has 19K miles on it. No major chips anywhwere (clear bra) and no dings either. If I polish it the car will look like the day it left the dealer. Just saying that sometimes spending a little more to get the job done right. Unless of course you plan on selling the car soon and don't really care what the paint looks like.


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