Mystery brake part?
#1
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Mystery brake part?
Does anybody recognize this part circled in the pic? This is on my 1980 Euro S, and it sits just ahead of the brake master cylinder - you can see the hardline from the MC goes into one end of this item. I suspect it was added during the "federalization" process because it doesn't look like a factory mounting job. Note the 2 brake pressure switches don't have wires connected that make a circuit to anywhere, yet my brake lights work fine!
Allan
1980 Euro S getting a thorough checkover and much needed TLC
Allan
1980 Euro S getting a thorough checkover and much needed TLC
#3
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It has the original? cruise control stalk marked in German, but I haven't tested to see if it works yet. I'm just digging into this car and finding a few "odd" things that look like were done for the importing process. I can't see this part shown in PET anywhere, so hoping someone else with a federalized Euro S will recognize it and it's function.
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I have an '80 Euro S and it was federalized but poorly. I can't imagine the function of that part you've pictured. Some sort of brake proportioning valve? Primitive anti-lock system?
An odd factor is that the brakes on our cars have an unusual diagonal split. Each half of the master cylinder feeds a diagonal front/rear pair (RF/LR and LF/RR). Then there are two brake limiter valves, one for each rear caliper. For this to be effective as some sort of braking enhancement there'd need to be two. So that makes me wonder if it's just trying to get a switch closure.
The brake light switches are on the bottom of the master, BTW. Maybe someone couldn't figure that out and added a jerry-rigged system in its place.
An odd factor is that the brakes on our cars have an unusual diagonal split. Each half of the master cylinder feeds a diagonal front/rear pair (RF/LR and LF/RR). Then there are two brake limiter valves, one for each rear caliper. For this to be effective as some sort of braking enhancement there'd need to be two. So that makes me wonder if it's just trying to get a switch closure.
The brake light switches are on the bottom of the master, BTW. Maybe someone couldn't figure that out and added a jerry-rigged system in its place.
Last edited by GlenL; 09-06-2010 at 12:58 PM.
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I have an '80 Euro S and it was federalized but poorly. I can't imagine the function of that part you've pictured. Some sort of brake proportioning valve? Primitive anti-lock system?
An odd factor is that the brakes on our cars have an unusual diagonal split. Each half of the master cylinder feeds a diagonal front/rear pair (RF/LR and LF/RR). Then there are to brake limiter valves for each rear caliper. For this to be effective as some sort of braking enhancement there'd need to be two. So that makes me wonder if it's just trying to get a switch closure.
The brake light switches are on the bottom of the master, BTW. Maybe someone couldn't figure that out and added a jerry-rigged system in its place.
An odd factor is that the brakes on our cars have an unusual diagonal split. Each half of the master cylinder feeds a diagonal front/rear pair (RF/LR and LF/RR). Then there are to brake limiter valves for each rear caliper. For this to be effective as some sort of braking enhancement there'd need to be two. So that makes me wonder if it's just trying to get a switch closure.
The brake light switches are on the bottom of the master, BTW. Maybe someone couldn't figure that out and added a jerry-rigged system in its place.
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'Murican cars used to have something like that to 'detect' when there was a failure of one hydraulic circuit. The dual-switch arrangement on the MC does that on your early 928, so I'm puzzled as to why that would be added to your car, especially with no wiring attached. The real full proportioning valves have four connections on them, rather than just the two you have on that thing.
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Could that be an old-school line-lock, perhaps disconnected after the PO discovered the diagonal split braking system -- or worse yet,plumbed up to actually work?
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On second look it appears that this is in series with just one of the diagonal circuits. That rear switch is just screwed into a brass T fitting. Looks a little too hillbilly to me, especially in a brake system; It would be out of my car pretty quickly if I could do it without twisting any of the brake piping.
#11
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Thanks for all the comments. I'll be looking very closely at this in the next few weeks and determine if it can be removed without affecting anything. It doesn't appear to be doing anything now, but must verify that.
Allan
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