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Old 05-28-2010, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Z
....guess like Dan, you'd rather throw $15-20k (probably more?) at a $12-15k 928??? BTW, it did sell.
How many Murph kits alone sold so far beside other supercharged 928's?Seems to be alot more would rather go supercharger than spend $60k+ on a GTS.If I was to keep the 928 yes would rather throw$10k into a supercharger like many others here have.Looks to be many more doing that than wasting $60k on a GTS and not drive it so they hope it goes up in value.

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Haven't been hear long have ya??? History will show you that most of the people who buy these cars aren't here.....
No haven't been here more than couple years even thou owning the car for 16years but been here long enough thou to see maybe 100+ supercharged cars? and it looks to be yes more would rather spend $10k to 20k on an older 928 to go faster than spend $60k on a GTS.Most people who probably only collect them aren't here either maybe because they don't need any tips on working on something that won't wear or break when not driving at all and its only sits in the garage.

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Old 05-28-2010, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by M928
How many Murph kits alone sold so far beside other supercharged 928's?Seems to be alot more would rather go supercharger than spend $60k+ on a GTS.If I was to keep the 928 yes would rather throw$10k into a supercharger like many others here have.Looks to be more here doing that than wasting $60k on a GTS.
Why b/c most of the guys who bought SCs to install on their 928 are here? Of course there are more, for one thing there are only just over 400 GTSs in total; how many S4s...... That $10k you throw at the SC (my guess is more plus how much $ are you putting into other stuff to make the car presentable?) is gone forever. The guy (or gal) who buys the low mileage GTS prolly isn't going to use it as a DD and it's more than likely a third, forth or fifth car so it won't get a pile of miles and when they go to sell it will prolly recoup most of the $ they spent unless of course they do not sell it themselves......

Which makes more fiscal sense or as you say a "waste"?
Seems pretty simple to me?
Old 05-28-2010, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Z
Why b/c most of the guys who bought SCs to install on their 928 are here? Of course there are more, for one thing there are only just over 400 GTSs in total; how many S4s...... That $10k you throw at the SC (my guess is more plus how much $ are you putting into other stuff to make the car presentable?) is gone forever. The guy (or gal) who buys the low mileage GTS prolly isn't going to use it as a DD and it's more than likely a third, forth or fifth car so it won't get a pile of miles and when they go to sell it will prolly recoup most of the $ they spent unless of course they do not sell it themselves......

Which makes more fiscal sense or as you say a "waste"?
Seems pretty simple to me?
It would make more financial sence to buy the $19.95 picture on Ebay and look at it if your not going to drive it! lol I don't think any money is needed to make the older 928's more presentable from 1987 and up they mostly look the same except wheels and the long tail light on the GTS models which I don't really care for at all.
Old 05-28-2010, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M928
It would make more financial sence to buy the $19.95 picture on Ebay and look at it if your not going to drive it! lol I don't think any money is needed to make the older 928's more presentable from 1987 and up they mostly look the same except wheels and the long tail light on the GTS models which I don't really care for at all.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Probably because none of us here are going to buy it and if we were we would be contacting him directly.

Michael is a great guy to work with but I don't think you will find him posting here much since so many have a need to bash him for what he does.
It is beyond me as to why anybody would bash some one for what they sold a car for.

One thing is certain, he knows his market.
Old 05-28-2010, 11:41 PM
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This is an interesting debate. I wonder who will win.
Old 05-29-2010, 12:30 AM
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I like how people who have never owned a GTS (probably AT ALL) and don't have the money to spend on them denigrate those who do have the money to spend on them and enjoy any way they choose to enjoy them...drive them, park them, whatever...why is it ANYONE else's business why a person buys ANYTHING they buy or what they pay for it???

Mark has only been here a few years but has made it clear that he hates low mile high dollar cars and he will go out of his way to berate anyone who supports them...probably can't afford one is all and secretly would like nothing more than to park the last US GTS in his garage and caress it every night before he goes to bed! I know I would like to do that! I would drive it some too...since I can't drive BLUE82!
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Originally Posted by M928
It would make more financial sence to buy the $19.95 picture on Ebay and look at it if your not going to drive it! lol I don't think any money is needed to make the older 928's more presentable from 1987 and up they mostly look the same except wheels and the long tail light on the GTS models which I don't really care for at all.
You must really scratch your head when someone pays $100k+ for a vintage anything. Why would anyone spend $120k for a 427 Corvette when it's 99% the same as a small block that could be had for $30k? Only external difference is the hood which can be easily changed. Big block 67 Vette's out number GTS 928's.
Based on pure performance, even the $30 million Ferrari GTO doesn't stack up to anything by today's standards.

Why do people spend big money on a Ferrari when you can pick up a Corvette for 1/3 the price with the same performance?

I could make the argument you spent WAY too much money on your S4 since my 81 16V will blow it away and I have less into it than most spend on their stock S4. You don't see me questioning why anyone would spend the money on a "run of the mill" 32V......

I hate to use the old smart *** response "you just don't get it", but it's true.
Old 05-29-2010, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pcar928fan
I like how people who have never owned a GTS (probably AT ALL) and don't have the money to spend on them denigrate those who do have the money to spend on them and enjoy any way they choose to enjoy them...drive them, park them, whatever...why is it ANYONE else's business why a person buys ANYTHING they buy or what they pay for it???

Mark has only been here a few years but has made it clear that he hates low mile high dollar cars and he will go out of his way to berate anyone who supports them...probably can't afford one is all and secretly would like nothing more than to park the last US GTS in his garage and caress it every night before he goes to bed! I know I would like to do that! I would drive it some too...since I can't drive BLUE82!
James,
Its not that I don't like low mileage high dollar cars.I don't like high dollar low horsepower cars and if someone wants to spend 60k for one thats up to them myself I wouldn't do it I'd rather use that money to buy something else.All I was saying is by todays standards the horsepower is outdated and compared it to 6cylinder Mustang 300 horse cars lol.Some like a GT style car because of the way they ride or whatever the reason.I know I would be bore as heck driving anything that runs slower than 4 seconds 0-60mph.I was bored with my motorcycle after awhile going 0-60 in 3 seconds.I sold my old street strip car than ran 0-60 in 2.9 seconds mainly because wanted something that handled but now want both.The choices,928 supercharged or 997 you know yourself you also want that 997.Just lighten up that 928 stable so you can afford to hug that 997 before bed lolThere are so many nice cars out there today its hard to say what to choose from.
On the statement...why is it ANYONE else's business why a person buys ANYTHING they buy or what they pay for it???
Its also the same thing why is it anyones business who puts $10k to 20k into a supercharger on an older 928 because they would rather do that than pay 60k for a GTS.Some want higher horsepower cars some want collectables.If someone wanted a collectable 928 wouldn't the 1 of what maybe 5 older club sports be the rare 928?
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When was last time CS was available in US. Not for years. If 1 out of 2 US model CS were to come into mrket now and it has low miles I bet it would go higher than low miles 5sp GTS have gone lately. Since they are not in market collectors have to settle for second best which is '95 5sp GTS.
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So where did this GTS go?
To the Whilhoit organization for proper preparation and marketing?
Old 05-29-2010, 09:12 AM
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Chuck

Sounds like you have info on who purchased and for how much. Are you going to tell us ?
Old 05-29-2010, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jmrjames
Chuck

Sounds like you have info on who purchased and for how much. Are you going to tell us ?
like most times when one of these cars comes for sale usually by an uniformed impatient seller this pasionate debate rages on this forum to the ultimate predictable end - nobody here buys the car! As is true this time too; the opportunity to buy this car for $60k has since past. Like it or not, understand it or not, get it or not the true market value on these cars is higher than what this car was advertised for...... IF I were ever to sell mine (again) it would take more than $100k to buy it.

I do know who bought this car - check post #48.
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Originally Posted by Landseer
To the Whilhoit organization for proper preparation and marketing?
With $90-100k asking price after few small corrections like correct GTS rear silencer.
Old 05-29-2010, 12:08 PM
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Responding to the value for money question, I bought my '86 in 2000 for $8,500 and sold it in 2008 for $6,000. It was a daily driver for over 70k miles. Pretty good investment if you ask me and at that time 300 crank HP was still pretty big.

And I completely understand the market and am not trying to say these cars will not sell for these high prices, I just think it's silly. Taking an extreme example, a '94 GTS vs. a '95 GTS with equal miles, condition and appearance goes for less money. The cars are pretty much identical, but the '95 sells for more. Most of the *few* people who buy such cars buy them to make money. To me, this is like nerfing the car, not using it for the purpose it was meant for. Can you say you really love a car if you are just using it to make more money for yourself and almost never drive it because if you did, its value would diminish?

I also fully understand that most people are scared of buying a highly modified car. Like I said before, that is the way I like it. This is why I bought my latest 928 with the supercharger already installed. My end investment will most probably end up very similar to that of my former '86.

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