IcemanG17

which is why keeping everything disgustingly filthy to hide the new parts is always a great idea.... The BS log I used for the last race totaled $411, with $256 being the car...

But don't forget EVERY part you can salvage off the car and SELL is now $$$ you can use towards the cost of other parts....which is what I will do next...since we have a stack of good used parts we removed from the car....I just have to go through them and sell them on fleabay or craigslist....but I will do that AFTER I have a running lemons racer....

vwdmc16

that would be a great one too, and 5 speed as well, that body is perfect for lemons but we really dont need another shell.

danglerb

Can you combine cars?

Like buy two cars, one for $300 and one for $600, and sell a combined $1000 in parts while building the car from parts off both cars. If that was legal, then seems like an endless stream of cheap cars could be parted out to source broken parts and offset purchase of new parts like gaskets.

OTOH maybe "the right stuff" is your new best friend.

James Bailey

Based on what I have been reading that is a no no ...otherwise Mark Anderson could run HIS stroker race car Since he has less than $500 "invested" after all the used parts sales. But bottom line is everyone KNOWS that there is no such thing as a $500 racecar.......

IcemanG17

Jim
But there were 156 $500 race cars on the track two weeks ago????????????? Including a 1995 Mercedes S600 V12........

When I "built" this 928 it was 100% in the spirit of lemons....sure a 5 speed would have been better & and 86.5+ even better with its brakes and HP...but this 84 automatic is just FUN to drive...even on stock rims & street tires....the only real "race" parts on it are the brake pads.....on stock "S" brakes....stock suspension (474) with cut springs.... sure on paper 193whp in a 2860lb automatic open diff doesn't sound like much...but damm is it a blast on track...which is the reason to rebuild it to stock specs on a tight budget....sure I could spend some $$$$ and make a serious cheater engine...but WHY...we have enough HP as is...& making another 100hp would just draw even more attention to the 928 that it doesn't need...

My goal is a stock performing engine that will last for a while....

Charley B

It appears LeMons racing requires Stealth (no penalties/no crushing), Durability and Speed, in that order. And Speed is a distant third in the formula.

danglerb

People must blow engines all the time, and it would be insanity to expect them to rebuild the rollcage etc. instead of dropping in a cheap used motor out of a wreck or fixing. Is there really no provision for making repairs to a car once built? Racing is a sport that breaks parts.

danglerb

I actually think the auto is a better choice, more reliable, easier to drive, cheaper cars to buy for a given level of condition.

mark kibort

for the kind of times requried, and the used of street tires, the auto wasnt a bad choice. again, you dont want the attention, but you have to be expecting the unexpected on every single curve and pass. one bad move, and you get a 20lap (effectively) penalty. the fastest car out there, will finish mid pack one guy scews up OR you get a bad break, like someone spinning in front of you and you have to evade! (off roading is at fault, no matter if it was your fault or not) so, you really need to tip toe around the track , to a certain extent. drive hard and double think all passes, while watching for corner workers flags. If we followed the 50th slowest car out there and didnt have any penalties, I think we would have been in the top 10.

Landseer

I think a decoration theme also fits in somehow.

That batmobile was just plain cool. Costume rental might have cost more than the car.

And the benz --- "team Diplomatic Immunity" with an apparent deal struck that the car might indeed be claimed at the end. Great theme, too.

Theme might negate need for stealth (somewhat).

GregBBRD

I'm guessing that the automatic must get pretty hot....which would increase the temperature of the engine, too.

In a race situation, I'd think you'd want to get the tranmission oil cooling out of the radiator.

Mark Anderson

There is a large cooler that is outside the radiator and the stock one is not used.

mark kibort

I think they had a separate trans cooler so it wasnt going through the radiator, but I could be wrong. It did run a little hot, but I think the system had air in it. I know if I dont get the air out of the lines between races, it can lead to some poor cooling characteristics.

mk

IcemanG17

Doc
I agree, that is why we didn't use the radiator endtank cooler....we ran an air-air cooler thats about 2-3 times the size of the stock trans cooler that sits on top of the radiator in newer 928's....its actually an RX7 oil cooler....the only thing the radiator cools is plain water....

it was running a tad warm...right at the 2nd white line.....but given the internal engine problems...it made sense...if I pushed hard with redline shifts..it was 2nd line...if I cruised in 3rd gear the whole time it would drop to around 1/2

GregBBRD

Good thinking on the transmission.

That actually sounds pretty normal for water temperature. Always hard to tell, because of the 928 gauge issues.