Norcal Lemons update!!!! 187whp 246torque :>)
11-02-2009, 10:48 AM
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+1.
As proven on the Leman winning Ford Cobra Daytona Coupe. Found to reduce drag, increase top speed and improve fuel efficiency by 20+%. Top speed on the M1 was 150 before and 185 after the tail mod. If you remove the rear bumper cover you'll see there is room to create something close to the Kammback. Some will think it is "butt" ugly perhaps, but I think it's beautiful. Plus it works.
Here's the designer Pete Brock with the Kammback.
As proven on the Leman winning Ford Cobra Daytona Coupe. Found to reduce drag, increase top speed and improve fuel efficiency by 20+%. Top speed on the M1 was 150 before and 185 after the tail mod. If you remove the rear bumper cover you'll see there is room to create something close to the Kammback. Some will think it is "butt" ugly perhaps, but I think it's beautiful. Plus it works.
Here's the designer Pete Brock with the Kammback.
11-02-2009, 11:03 AM
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Thanks, H'man. Over all I am VERY, VERY well and if today's doctor visits straighten out my reluctant tummy and problems falling asleep, I will be damn near perfect. Not bad for 12 days after getting run over by a surgical train. I can't tell you how happy I am. 
11-02-2009, 12:38 PM
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11-02-2009, 12:41 PM
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11-02-2009, 12:44 PM
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(sorry for the hijack Brian!)
11-02-2009, 07:39 PM
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+1.
As proven on the Leman winning Ford Cobra Daytona Coupe. Found to reduce drag, increase top speed and improve fuel efficiency by 20+%. Top speed on the M1 was 150 before and 185 after the tail mod. If you remove the rear bumper cover you'll see there is room to create something close to the Kammback. Some will think it is "butt" ugly perhaps, but I think it's beautiful. Plus it works.
Here's the designer Pete Brock with the Kammback.
As proven on the Leman winning Ford Cobra Daytona Coupe. Found to reduce drag, increase top speed and improve fuel efficiency by 20+%. Top speed on the M1 was 150 before and 185 after the tail mod. If you remove the rear bumper cover you'll see there is room to create something close to the Kammback. Some will think it is "butt" ugly perhaps, but I think it's beautiful. Plus it works.
Here's the designer Pete Brock with the Kammback.
I also like the Kamm tail concept.....plus it would sure look cool....and better aero to boot!!
Clint I think we should work on this....
11-02-2009, 09:22 PM
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We won't have time to get it done before the 1st race....but should get it going for the next lemons race at Infineon in March!!!
11-02-2009, 09:29 PM
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AFAIK, the tail is separate from the Kamm-back. The flat rear is for less drag, the tail is for more drag/downforce.
Basically, you want to cut off the end of the car where the body starts to curve inward. Airflow after the cutoff acts as if the empty space was the tail of a teardrop.
Basically, you want to cut off the end of the car where the body starts to curve inward. Airflow after the cutoff acts as if the empty space was the tail of a teardrop.
11-03-2009, 03:41 AM
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nope cant do, already made it into a wagon.
making a kamm *** on this car would deadly stupid in lemons where accidents happen quite often, we would have to install a fuel cell farther forward into the car, i sure as hell wouldnt drive it with just a inch of crumple room before the plastic fuel tank, no thanks. maybe later we can make a wagon kamm tail that sticks out a few more inches, that might look really good
also the car now has most of a cage!!, not much left to go, not much time either before the test day
11-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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I think you can do this and not loose any tank protection. My thought was not to discard the tail, but to cut into and work in a dished out surface similar to the Kammback section. I wish I could do a photoshop.
They got 20+%. Just fooling around you should be able to get 8-10%. Now, this is a high-speed benefit. Not sure it applies to Lemons as it did to the Mulsanne at Leman.
They got 20+%. Just fooling around you should be able to get 8-10%. Now, this is a high-speed benefit. Not sure it applies to Lemons as it did to the Mulsanne at Leman.