Vilhuer

Because Japanise have strange fixation that German cars they buy must be LHD as they are LHD in Germany also. Almost all ...9xxx VIN Japanise 928 are LHD. There are two separate country codes for Japanise cars, C08 = LHD and C18 = RHD.

First GT's were made in February 1989. This means more than half of the '89 MY had gone before GT was even introduced. What are ods Porsche did special GT engined S4 more than six months before actual first GT production time? They were still making M28/41 SP engines for '89 MY ROW Club Sport during first part of '89 MY. M28/47 simply did not exist at the time this one was made. M28/47 engine block is not original in any '88 MY car. If someone claims it it there better be really good paper trail to prove it. Besides, block should have MY info stamped to it right next to where M28/47 is stamped.

Known VIN range for '88 MY Japanise cars is WP0ZZZ92ZJS849561 - 849827. 9595 is very early within that range. Its likely 9827 is not even last one made. This means 9595 was very likely actually done already in late summer 1987.

Also if gearbox number is G28/12 2J10547 it means it early '88 MY ROW 5sp which was very likely also made before late summer 1987. Good point would be that box is likely original. G28/13 2J10547 or G28/55 2J10547 would very likely not be.

docmirror

Thank you, good info. I suspected that the engine was a swap, but one never knows. I had an Espada which was a Series I car, but had a Series II engine from the factory(I had the build sheet). I also know that all car companies start design mods at least six months before they go into production. However, the VIN info blows that, as it shows the car being an early 88, and the GT engines coming late in the 89 run.

docmirror

The winning bidder has a rating of 146, and has one bid retraction in the last six months. He's also bid on 4 other Porsches recently.

danglerb

Reserve not met.

linderpat

Huh? I don't see a dash crack, just a wire running down the dash for electronic gear.

VehiGAZ

This is supposed to be a wire, not a crack??!?

Schwa had it right, then... every picture tells a lie.

Ispeed

So is there no chance it is a CS/SE engine same M28/47? I know not many CS/SE were produced, but they were from '88, no?

I was not trying to be negative about the car, but without seeing it myself or some high rez pics I don't have a lot of info. $12K would be reasonable for that car.

Hilton

Its an odd cultural thing - high end performance cars are typically preferred by buyers/enthusiasts in their as-designed state. As a result, Porsche's, Ferrari's etc. are almost all LHD in Japan. At the same time, things like Nissan Skyline GTR's are all RHD because thats how they were designed by the manufacturer.

Occaisionally a RHD car crops up, as a special order (I know a few locals here in Oz who've imported RHD japanese S4's), but for the most part they're LHD.

Hilton

The CS/SE engines are M28/41 blocks, not M28/47 (which is what the GT engines have).

The only clue that an M28/41 motor is a CS/SE one is the letters "SP" after the engine number.

edit: Corrected - thanks Erkka below for pointing out I was confusing my gearbox and engine numbers

Vilhuer

M28/41 ... SP.

doug 88 s4

Ok Doc,
This has LSD the trans # is 2J10547 the paint code is S7S7 it came with sport suspension and green tint glass. So, maybe thats' what it is or who knows. All I know is it is way fun to drive, sticks like glue, runs great and doesn't seem to have any trouble keeping up to most anything out here.

doug 88 s4

Yup Ed that is a crack alright. It happened last winter. I seem to recall a guy in Wisconson??? that does nice work recovering dsaes and pod. I think it was around $500.00 to $600.00 for the dash. BTW thanks for the kind words!

danglerb

Thats the trans serial number, the numbers before that (xx) are the type ID G28/xx yy then the serial number and yy can be blank or 12 I think.

linderpat

Good luck with the sale Doug. $12K is a steal for this car.

JWise

Hi Doug,

Have you ever ordered a Certificate of Authenticity from Porsche? It would contain the engine number and transmission number as it left the factory.