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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 03:06 AM
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Streetsnake:

Completely due to the trolls and the inaction of the moderators to contol them, I agree that your thread has turned into a complete dumpster fire.

My appolgies. It is very obvious, without my input, this would not have occurred. Something bizarre occurs when I mention that all I do 24/7 is work to improve the 928 model, with 45 years of dedicated attention to the process.

After reflecting on this, this evening, I have elected to completely "bow out" of assisting you.

There are, quite obviously, many people with far superior knowledge, who have developed pieces far superior than I could ever hope to offer.

Pick one of these experts who have spent years developing pieces and the technology required to make a 928 perform like a modern car (with modern tires) simply by making minor alterations to the refreshening of your suspension, like I have done.

My regrets for the "dumpster fire".
However, I wish you a fantastic result!

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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 03:36 AM
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Very sad!
I think we are all here to be united with our great hobby in bad and good times!

Without this forum I would be much more stupid and don‘t know such great people all around the world.

So, if someone don‘t like the other one, which is normal in real life, don‘t search the confrontations.
Debating over technical differences is the salt in the soup, a technical forum needs the discussion.

Everyone is free to buy his stuff from his preferences business.

My son is 13, I think in a few years he will live one year in an US family and go to school there to widen his sight of the world and I hope I can meet a few of this group in real life.

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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Darklands
Very sad!
I think we are all here to be united with our great hobby in bad and good times!

Without this forum I would be much more stupid and don‘t know such great people all around the world.

So, if someone don‘t like the other one, which is normal in real life, don‘t search the confrontations.
Debating over technical differences is the salt in the soup, a technical forum needs the discussion.

Everyone is free to buy his stuff from his preferences business.

My son is 13, I think in a few years he will live one year in an US family and go to school there to widen his sight of the world and I hope I can meet a few of this group in real life.
If you ever stop through SF..drop a note.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 10:13 AM
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why is a sponsor bullying community members who say things they disagree with?
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
why is a sponsor bullying community members who say things they disagree with?
Post of the year material right there.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
Streetsnake:

Completely due to the trolls and the inaction of the moderators to contol them, I agree that your thread has turned into a complete dumpster fire.
says the guy with a book of matches and an empty gas can.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
why is a sponsor bullying community members who say things they disagree with?

And why has zero action been taken to rectify the situation? Should have equal weight of tolerance with the sponsors as with the members.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ALKada
And why has zero action been taken to rectify the situation? Should have equal weight of tolerance with the sponsors as with the members.
actually sponsors should be held to even higher standards. just my opinion.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 12:22 PM
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Maybe we could add "MOTOR MOUNTS" to this thread? That would most certainly calm everyone down.

The sad part is someone will have to sift though all this GARBAGE to get to the GEMS.

There is good intel here from "stock" refresh to "LETS GO NUTS!!!" and some people actually showed their work.

Good luck and, if this thread doesn't get locked, let us know what you decided to do and how it turned out.

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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dundertaker
Maybe we could add "MOTOR MOUNTS" to this thread? That would most certainly calm everyone down.

The sad part is someone will have to sift though all this GARBAGE to get to the GEMS.

There is good intel here from "stock" refresh to "LETS GO NUTS!!!" and some people actually showed their work.

Good luck and, if this thread doesn't get locked, let us know what you decided to do and how it turned out.

Dundertaker

Caught the drift...but why should people with private IP have to show their work?

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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ALKada
And why has zero action been taken to rectify the situation? Should have equal weight of tolerance with the sponsors as with the members.
With certain individuals we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't.

If a mod were to do a good "clean-up" of this thread, I have zero doubt said moderator will receive no less than 3-4 nasty PM's accusing them of bias, removing "truths", damaging the forums and at lease one of these PM's will include a thinly veiled threat of some sort of action being taken outside the forum against said moderator and other folks.

This is all speculation of course. I wouldn't be party to any sort of "minority report" style future speculation. Just speaking from experience and feedback from other moderators, past and present.

Thankfully I haven't received a chain of threatening voicemails yet from one of these individuals. The (now former) moderator who did receive such messages forwarded them to me in full, so there's no hearsay or speculation as to what actually happened.

Fun times huh? All around a hobby.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hacker-pschorr

Fun times huh? All around a hobby.
It's supposed to be fun but some here seem bent on making it anything but fun.
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
why is a sponsor bullying community members who say things they disagree with?
Where this thread turned into a dumpster fire was post #108. Up to that point, the thread was completely on track, discussing suspension and different ideas.
Granted, I'm telling people what we have developed and why, because we are "way ahead of anything, anyone has done.

So, in your viewpoint, that's me being the bully?

I can point this out, in dozens of threads, where one of the trolls starts the whole sh!tshow by attacking me/my products with complete impunity from any type of moderation.​​

I'd submit that you would have a different viewpoint, if you read entire threads, instead of just snippets, sent to you, by a prejudiced moderator.

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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Caught the drift...but why should people with private IP have to show their work?
Why would someone with a private IP need to keep expressing their opinion about the IP? If a vendor wants to say, "Hey...hit me up..I have a solution,"...FAIR...that's not what's happened here.

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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
I'd submit that you would have a different viewpoint, if you read entire threads, instead of just snippets, sent to you, by a prejudiced moderator.
Hate to burst your bubble but myself and Pete haven't sent anything to Rob about this thread.

It's also not Rob's first day on the job. He's been around Rennlist as long as I have been.
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