If you have a 5-speed 928 and don't have a short throw shifter; GET ONE!
05-15-2009, 01:19 PM
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Two more critical steps for those of us mere mortals that do not have quite the pristine car of Chucky Z. 
1. Have Paul Champagne recover the shifter
2. Paint and clearcoat shift indicator
I agree with Chuck, money well spent!!!
1. Have Paul Champagne recover the shifter
2. Paint and clearcoat shift indicator
I agree with Chuck, money well spent!!!
05-15-2009, 01:24 PM
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For the OBs,
You can have a short shifter as well. I cut mine down to about 3/4 of an inch shorter than a stock GTS shifter. Replaced all bushings, dremelled lever down to match shape of stock shifter. This one is a true flick of the wrist to shift through the gears. I actually like it a little better than the short shifter on the GTS. (Much Smoother and less "notchy"!!"
You can have a short shifter as well. I cut mine down to about 3/4 of an inch shorter than a stock GTS shifter. Replaced all bushings, dremelled lever down to match shape of stock shifter. This one is a true flick of the wrist to shift through the gears. I actually like it a little better than the short shifter on the GTS. (Much Smoother and less "notchy"!!"
05-15-2009, 02:11 PM
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Simply cutting the shifter does not decrease the shifter throw though. For that you need to change the distance of the holes in the lower part of the shifter where the front and rear rods mount.
05-15-2009, 02:31 PM
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You have inspired me Chuck and THANKS for your succinct write-up. I will instal the one I have from Roger here into Godzilla this weekend. 
Heinrich
Heinrich1. remove the bottom of the boot from the console (without breaking it if possible - I didn't break mine)
2. pull the **** off the shift lever - takes a little effort and be careful not to use the console as a brace....
3. remove the rubber cover over the shifter well.
4. remove the two clips that hold the shifter lever to the rods.
5. remove the old shift lever, springs and plastic spacer (you will not reuse the springs or the white plastic spacer)
6. install the short shifter (not a bad idea to replace the 4 plastic bushings at the same time? there ~$2 each)
7. reinstall the washers and clips to hold everything in place.
8. reinstall the rubber shift well cover.
9. reinstall the shifter **** and boot.
Super easy.......
2. pull the **** off the shift lever - takes a little effort and be careful not to use the console as a brace....
3. remove the rubber cover over the shifter well.
4. remove the two clips that hold the shifter lever to the rods.
5. remove the old shift lever, springs and plastic spacer (you will not reuse the springs or the white plastic spacer)
6. install the short shifter (not a bad idea to replace the 4 plastic bushings at the same time? there ~$2 each)
7. reinstall the washers and clips to hold everything in place.
8. reinstall the rubber shift well cover.
9. reinstall the shifter **** and boot.
Super easy.......
05-15-2009, 02:47 PM
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Stephen,
Correct to a point.
The short throw shifter has holes that are further apart for late model 928s. The shifter itself is maybe 1/4-1/2 inch shorter than my stock GTS shifter as well. I'll agree, the holes being further apart did change the throw of the shift quite a bit. (see pic below for comparison)
The holes on the early model 928s are further apart and are more like the short throw design from that standpoint. So, If you have a stock length shifter on your 78 and you cut it down to the lenght of the 79 pictured above, you most definatley will shorten the shift throw of you shifter. It is a significantly shorter throw than my GTS with the short throw shifter in it.
Correct to a point.
The short throw shifter has holes that are further apart for late model 928s. The shifter itself is maybe 1/4-1/2 inch shorter than my stock GTS shifter as well. I'll agree, the holes being further apart did change the throw of the shift quite a bit. (see pic below for comparison)
The holes on the early model 928s are further apart and are more like the short throw design from that standpoint. So, If you have a stock length shifter on your 78 and you cut it down to the lenght of the 79 pictured above, you most definatley will shorten the shift throw of you shifter. It is a significantly shorter throw than my GTS with the short throw shifter in it.
05-16-2009, 12:32 PM
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A short shifter along with new front ball cup and rear shifter linkage are THE way to go in a 5 speed. Very precise and short throw.
Eliminating the rear linkage fore/aft play helps more too. The stock part has play designed into it. Old news for many 928ers here of course.
Eliminating the rear linkage fore/aft play helps more too. The stock part has play designed into it. Old news for many 928ers here of course.
Chuck, I would add two steps to your nice list...
5b. Place shifter in oven for a few minutes (makes it easier to install)
6b. Apply lithium grease to bushings and linkage pins.
FWIW, I would say new bushings are a must. Sometimes it can be a real bugger to line up everything, and in the process I've destroyed a couple bushings.
5b. Place shifter in oven for a few minutes (makes it easier to install)
6b. Apply lithium grease to bushings and linkage pins.
FWIW, I would say new bushings are a must. Sometimes it can be a real bugger to line up everything, and in the process I've destroyed a couple bushings.
Glad to help! You'll wonder why it took so long to do it, the transformation is so remarkable.
05-16-2009, 12:52 PM
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Just a public thanks to Mark Anderson and 928 International
I know it has been said before but I don't think it can be said to many times what a great asset we have here.
I saw this post and had to have one. "had been on my mind for a while now"
I asked for one and the next day I have a tracking number for it on the way. Thanks Again!!
Without the great support found here I would have been dead in the water along time ago. I can't wait for my new toy.
I know it has been said before but I don't think it can be said to many times what a great asset we have here.
I saw this post and had to have one. "had been on my mind for a while now"
I asked for one and the next day I have a tracking number for it on the way. Thanks Again!!
Without the great support found here I would have been dead in the water along time ago. I can't wait for my new toy.
05-16-2009, 03:40 PM
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Just a public thanks to Mark Anderson and 928 International
I know it has been said before but I don't think it can be said to many times what a great asset we have here.
I saw this post and had to have one. "had been on my mind for a while now"
I asked for one and the next day I have a tracking number for it on the way. Thanks Again!!
Without the great support found here I would have been dead in the water along time ago. I can't wait for my new toy.
I know it has been said before but I don't think it can be said to many times what a great asset we have here.
I saw this post and had to have one. "had been on my mind for a while now"
I asked for one and the next day I have a tracking number for it on the way. Thanks Again!!
Without the great support found here I would have been dead in the water along time ago. I can't wait for my new toy.
05-17-2009, 12:22 AM
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Follow up:
Installed it today. Pretty quick and the difference on the 78 is HUGE! Shifting requires a little more effort because of the reduced leverage but overall, just wow! Here's some photos to show what a drastic difference this is on an early car.
Stock Shifter:
Foreward and rear throw, 2nd to 3rd:
Old and new side by side.
New installed.
Forward and rear throw, 2nd and 3rd gears.
Installed it today. Pretty quick and the difference on the 78 is HUGE! Shifting requires a little more effort because of the reduced leverage but overall, just wow! Here's some photos to show what a drastic difference this is on an early car.
Stock Shifter:
Foreward and rear throw, 2nd to 3rd:
Old and new side by side.
New installed.
Forward and rear throw, 2nd and 3rd gears.
05-20-2009, 10:50 PM
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Installed mine today along with the new shifter cup and it truly without any exaggeration the best thing you can do for the feel of the car. Now call Mark A. and get one for yourself. Thanks as always Mark, this and every other thing you have ever helped me with has made my shark what it is today. But I do miss picking Jim's brain when I call!
Kevin
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05-20-2009, 10:50 PM
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I was going to throw this in and here goes:
Don't bother buying one, make your own.
Pull the old shifter, cut down the length and then notch the top and taper the shaft to accept the ****. Put it back with new nylon bushing. Cost? Like $4.
This way you can cut it as much as works for you. Spend a minute pretending it's at different lengths so it'll work exactly right for your seat position, arm length, and so on.
I did that and am very happy with the results.
Don't bother buying one, make your own.
Pull the old shifter, cut down the length and then notch the top and taper the shaft to accept the ****. Put it back with new nylon bushing. Cost? Like $4.
This way you can cut it as much as works for you. Spend a minute pretending it's at different lengths so it'll work exactly right for your seat position, arm length, and so on.
I did that and am very happy with the results.
05-20-2009, 11:02 PM
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"Don't bother buying one, make your own."
Not the same thing take a look at the pictures posted in this thread it's not just the shifter height changed.
Not the same thing take a look at the pictures posted in this thread it's not just the shifter height changed.
05-20-2009, 11:08 PM
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I was going to throw this in and here goes:
Don't bother buying one, make your own.
Pull the old shifter, cut down the length and then notch the top and taper the shaft to accept the ****. Put it back with new nylon bushing. Cost? Like $4.
This way you can cut it as much as works for you. Spend a minute pretending it's at different lengths so it'll work exactly right for your seat position, arm length, and so on.
I did that and am very happy with the results.
Don't bother buying one, make your own.
Pull the old shifter, cut down the length and then notch the top and taper the shaft to accept the ****. Put it back with new nylon bushing. Cost? Like $4.
This way you can cut it as much as works for you. Spend a minute pretending it's at different lengths so it'll work exactly right for your seat position, arm length, and so on.
I did that and am very happy with the results.
