View Poll Results: Does OB mean 78-80 or 16V car?
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Definition of an OB
04-16-2009, 08:25 PM
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I just voted wrong... I voted for the last one thinking anything before the body change with that change being the addition of spoilers. The front fenders got new holes when the spoiler was introduced, a new rear quarter glass was used when the S spoilers were introduced and the rear hatch got some holes and brackets as well.
OB is NON-spoiler ORIGINAL BODY 928's... END OF STORY! I have SEVEN of them if you don't like it then buy more than SEVEN for your collection and make your own damn rules!
The correct answer is not up there... OB did mean "Old Bugger" and was referring to the '78 - '79 cars. TO me OB means NO SPOILERS (in case I have not make that clear enough)... If you called up a junk yard and found a perfectly good fender for your car and it was from an S (or even a competition package '81 or '82) car and you had an OB and got this perfect panel in just your cars color and shade you would be PISSED because NOW you would have to do some body work filling the holes for the spoiler and repainting it! To me that is a BIG DIFFERENCE. If you ordered rear quarter glass for ANY 928 other than an S and you got S rear quarter glass you would wonder what this damn black strip on your glass is for... These are the visible differences that differentiate between and OB, S, S4, GTS cars...we are talking about outside stuff NOT under the hood stuff.
As noted most people don't have a clue how many valves or what fuel injection system are in their car. Why the hell should they? Pointless information for the vast unwashed masses. They can SEE that their car is different because it has spoilers though, or NOT in the case of an OB.
OB is NON-spoiler ORIGINAL BODY 928's... END OF STORY! I have SEVEN of them if you don't like it then buy more than SEVEN for your collection and make your own damn rules!
The correct answer is not up there... OB did mean "Old Bugger" and was referring to the '78 - '79 cars. TO me OB means NO SPOILERS (in case I have not make that clear enough)... If you called up a junk yard and found a perfectly good fender for your car and it was from an S (or even a competition package '81 or '82) car and you had an OB and got this perfect panel in just your cars color and shade you would be PISSED because NOW you would have to do some body work filling the holes for the spoiler and repainting it! To me that is a BIG DIFFERENCE. If you ordered rear quarter glass for ANY 928 other than an S and you got S rear quarter glass you would wonder what this damn black strip on your glass is for... These are the visible differences that differentiate between and OB, S, S4, GTS cars...we are talking about outside stuff NOT under the hood stuff.
As noted most people don't have a clue how many valves or what fuel injection system are in their car. Why the hell should they? Pointless information for the vast unwashed masses. They can SEE that their car is different because it has spoilers though, or NOT in the case of an OB.
04-16-2009, 09:41 PM
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I just voted wrong... I voted for the last one thinking anything before the body change with that change being the addition of spoilers. The front fenders got new holes when the spoiler was introduced, a new rear quarter glass was used when the S spoilers were introduced and the rear hatch got some holes and brackets as well.
OB is NON-spoiler ORIGINAL BODY 928's... END OF STORY! I have SEVEN of them if you don't like it then buy more than SEVEN for your collection and make your own damn rules!
The correct answer is not up there... OB did mean "Old Bugger" and was referring to the '78 - '79 cars. TO me OB means NO SPOILERS (in case I have not make that clear enough)... If you called up a junk yard and found a perfectly good fender for your car and it was from an S (or even a competition package '81 or '82) car and you had an OB and got this perfect panel in just your cars color and shade you would be PISSED because NOW you would have to do some body work filling the holes for the spoiler and repainting it! To me that is a BIG DIFFERENCE. If you ordered rear quarter glass for ANY 928 other than an S and you got S rear quarter glass you would wonder what this damn black strip on your glass is for... These are the visible differences that differentiate between and OB, S, S4, GTS cars...we are talking about outside stuff NOT under the hood stuff.
As noted most people don't have a clue how many valves or what fuel injection system are in their car. Why the hell should they? Pointless information for the vast unwashed masses. They can SEE that their car is different because it has spoilers though, or NOT in the case of an OB.
OB is NON-spoiler ORIGINAL BODY 928's... END OF STORY! I have SEVEN of them if you don't like it then buy more than SEVEN for your collection and make your own damn rules!
The correct answer is not up there... OB did mean "Old Bugger" and was referring to the '78 - '79 cars. TO me OB means NO SPOILERS (in case I have not make that clear enough)... If you called up a junk yard and found a perfectly good fender for your car and it was from an S (or even a competition package '81 or '82) car and you had an OB and got this perfect panel in just your cars color and shade you would be PISSED because NOW you would have to do some body work filling the holes for the spoiler and repainting it! To me that is a BIG DIFFERENCE. If you ordered rear quarter glass for ANY 928 other than an S and you got S rear quarter glass you would wonder what this damn black strip on your glass is for... These are the visible differences that differentiate between and OB, S, S4, GTS cars...we are talking about outside stuff NOT under the hood stuff.
As noted most people don't have a clue how many valves or what fuel injection system are in their car. Why the hell should they? Pointless information for the vast unwashed masses. They can SEE that their car is different because it has spoilers though, or NOT in the case of an OB.
So if you add spoilers to a '78 is it still an OB or a TAFKAOB? ("The Artist formerly known as Old Bugger)
Mine's a D-OB. "Dirty 'ole Bastard"
04-16-2009, 10:08 PM
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04-16-2009, 10:31 PM
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Enough already..............
The OB was coined before most of you whipper snappers could read or even knew what a 928 was - non the less if you could figure out what was under the hood!
A OB is simply a "Old Bugger" - the original design - '78 and '79 with the Bosch CIS or "K-Jetronic" injection system - WITH OR WITHOUT the factory spoilers.
And I've got enough to make my own rules too!
The OB was coined before most of you whipper snappers could read or even knew what a 928 was - non the less if you could figure out what was under the hood!
A OB is simply a "Old Bugger" - the original design - '78 and '79 with the Bosch CIS or "K-Jetronic" injection system - WITH OR WITHOUT the factory spoilers.
And I've got enough to make my own rules too!
04-16-2009, 10:42 PM
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Enough already..............
The OB was coined before most of you whipper snappers could read or even knew what a 928 was - non the less if you could figure out what was under the hood!
A OB is simply a "Old Bugger" - the original design - '78 and '79 with the Bosch CIS or "K-Jetronic" injection system - WITH OR WITHOUT the factory spoilers.
And I've got enough to make my own rules too!
The OB was coined before most of you whipper snappers could read or even knew what a 928 was - non the less if you could figure out what was under the hood!
A OB is simply a "Old Bugger" - the original design - '78 and '79 with the Bosch CIS or "K-Jetronic" injection system - WITH OR WITHOUT the factory spoilers.
And I've got enough to make my own rules too!
04-16-2009, 11:00 PM
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So the term changed! Jeez! Haha!
It's just an easy way to discuss differences between the old body style,
16v cars, versus the new body style, 32v cars...
So what's a good term for the pre-s4 old body style 16v cars?
To encompass ALL of them? '
I always thought Old Buggers, was a good term for them.
Got a better one?
It's just an easy way to discuss differences between the old body style,
16v cars, versus the new body style, 32v cars...
So what's a good term for the pre-s4 old body style 16v cars?
To encompass ALL of them? '
I always thought Old Buggers, was a good term for them.
Got a better one?
04-17-2009, 12:33 AM
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Well, if a car was bastardized then it does not exist as a real factory car anymore so all bets are off. What the hell do you call an S4 with GTS brakes, body colored wing, and aero mirrors. How about an early car with all of that stuff? This could go on forever.
Korwen... Comp package car as far as anyone is concerned on the outside looking in would be an S. Those of us who know call it a Comp pkg car... Ok, that is what I CALL IT! Frankly it should probably just be called a 4.5L S... That way if you have to buy a rear quarter window, front fender, or rear deck lid you get an S part, NOT an OB part...
78-82 w/o spoilers = OB
81-85 w/ spoilers = S (did any S engine cars come from the factory WITH OUT spoilers???)
87-91 S4 or GT if 5spd...though exceptions apply for 87 - 89 on the GT side of that equation
92-95 GTS!
At least I hope we can all agree on that last category anyway!
Part of the problem here is knowing what you are describing and talking about. Most everyone in the world talks about how a car looks and they want to know about that. OB, no spoilers, S spoiler, S4, GTS... EASY...
BUT, it is never that easy because of the mix of packages (competition, etc) as well as engines. For our S's here in the states we have the Comp pkg cars, the 4.7L cars AND the 5.0L cars. There are some places that have the EURO 4.7L and the 5.0L S cars...should we start breaking those up too? I think they have in England (and maybe Australia) into the S2 and S3 cars... If you are talking drive train fine...
My argument has always been about body style and look of the car when it comes to OB, S, S4, GTS, NEVER about engine, brakes, or handling packages...
YMMV and probably does!
Korwen... Comp package car as far as anyone is concerned on the outside looking in would be an S. Those of us who know call it a Comp pkg car... Ok, that is what I CALL IT! Frankly it should probably just be called a 4.5L S... That way if you have to buy a rear quarter window, front fender, or rear deck lid you get an S part, NOT an OB part...
78-82 w/o spoilers = OB
81-85 w/ spoilers = S (did any S engine cars come from the factory WITH OUT spoilers???)
87-91 S4 or GT if 5spd...though exceptions apply for 87 - 89 on the GT side of that equation
92-95 GTS!
At least I hope we can all agree on that last category anyway!
Part of the problem here is knowing what you are describing and talking about. Most everyone in the world talks about how a car looks and they want to know about that. OB, no spoilers, S spoiler, S4, GTS... EASY...
BUT, it is never that easy because of the mix of packages (competition, etc) as well as engines. For our S's here in the states we have the Comp pkg cars, the 4.7L cars AND the 5.0L cars. There are some places that have the EURO 4.7L and the 5.0L S cars...should we start breaking those up too? I think they have in England (and maybe Australia) into the S2 and S3 cars... If you are talking drive train fine...
My argument has always been about body style and look of the car when it comes to OB, S, S4, GTS, NEVER about engine, brakes, or handling packages...
YMMV and probably does!
04-17-2009, 11:13 AM
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OB is NON-spoiler ORIGINAL BODY 928's... END OF STORY! I have SEVEN of them if you don't like it then buy more than SEVEN for your collection and make your own damn rules!
The correct answer is not up there... OB did mean "Old Bugger" and was referring to the '78 - '79 cars. TO me OB means NO SPOILERS (in case I have not make that clear enough)...
Your saying you didn't know my '78 with factory spoilers existed?
ALL RIGHT!!! I finally have a collectors item.
04-17-2009, 11:28 AM
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04-17-2009, 11:53 AM
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Well - I'd bet they had them driving around Europe before they were shipped over to America, so I guess they would be the OOB - or Original Old Bugger.
I 'd say this should best be answered by the 928 Guru who coined the terminology "OB".
Were the heck is Jay when you need him?
I 'd say this should best be answered by the 928 Guru who coined the terminology "OB".
Were the heck is Jay when you need him?
