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12-11-2009, 10:02 PM
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Welp, maybe this'll be an exercise in getting what you pay for. We shall see.
12-14-2009, 05:04 PM
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The rain didn't let up until mid-Sunday and I'd used up all my garagetime coupons by then. Sorry! I'm afraid it'll be next weekend before I get a chance to play again. (tho I might be able to sneak out tonight and try on 1 front and 1 rear- we'll see...)
12-14-2009, 07:52 PM
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I must have been lucky - my aftermarket carrera 3 5 spokes got balanced twice as the first time around they needed no weights at all - second tyre guy thought they hadn't been done and did them again - still ended up with minimal weights added.
12-14-2009, 09:01 PM
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That wasnt meant to be a blanket statement that all aftermarket wheels are like this. But most of the time, if you see a wheel with a ton of weights theres a good chance that its a replica wheel or its been damaged and repaired or something.
Its not a one size fits all kinda comment though.
12-15-2009, 12:33 AM
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Jon,
That wasnt meant to be a blanket statement that all aftermarket wheels are like this. But most of the time, if you see a wheel with a ton of weights theres a good chance that its a replica wheel or its been damaged and repaired or something.
Its not a one size fits all kinda comment though.
That wasnt meant to be a blanket statement that all aftermarket wheels are like this. But most of the time, if you see a wheel with a ton of weights theres a good chance that its a replica wheel or its been damaged and repaired or something.
Its not a one size fits all kinda comment though.
I have seen installer spin up a rim, add the weights, spin check it, see it called for more weights (which means he put them on wrong), and then he added more weights without taking out what he put on the 1st time. End result is a lot of weights, poor to horrible balancing. An experienced installer will break the bead and rotate the tire on the rim when it calls for too much weight on the 1st spin. The newer balancing machines will even check and tell the installer to rotate the tire (whether they do it or not is the question).
Rob,
That is a lot of weight on that rim. I'd remove them and take the rim to a local trusted installer and have them check it and rotate the tire on the rim if need be. A little brake cleaner sprayed on a rag easily gets off that sticky weight goo.
12-15-2009, 01:48 AM
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Agreed, it's (almost) comical. Each square is 1/4 oz, there are 23 weights on that one wheel, or 3/8 of a pound. They're straight from Tire Rack, I assume they must mount more than a few wheels and tires- So either someone read their machine really wrong, or the wheel is totally FUBAR, or ??? They're not going on the car until I get them re-checked locally.
12-15-2009, 01:57 AM
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I used to work at a tire/suspension garage, and I can atest that a lot of the time if you saw a lot of weights on a rim it was because the installer made a mistake, didn't know what he was doing, or both.
I have seen installer spin up a rim, add the weights, spin check it, see it called for more weights (which means he put them on wrong), and then he added more weights without taking out what he put on the 1st time. End result is a lot of weights, poor to horrible balancing. An experienced installer will break the bead and rotate the tire on the rim when it calls for too much weight on the 1st spin. The newer balancing machines will even check and tell the installer to rotate the tire (whether they do it or not is the question).
Rob,
That is a lot of weight on that rim. I'd remove them and take the rim to a local trusted installer and have them check it and rotate the tire on the rim if need be. A little brake cleaner sprayed on a rag easily gets off that sticky weight goo.
I have seen installer spin up a rim, add the weights, spin check it, see it called for more weights (which means he put them on wrong), and then he added more weights without taking out what he put on the 1st time. End result is a lot of weights, poor to horrible balancing. An experienced installer will break the bead and rotate the tire on the rim when it calls for too much weight on the 1st spin. The newer balancing machines will even check and tell the installer to rotate the tire (whether they do it or not is the question).
Rob,
That is a lot of weight on that rim. I'd remove them and take the rim to a local trusted installer and have them check it and rotate the tire on the rim if need be. A little brake cleaner sprayed on a rag easily gets off that sticky weight goo.
Ive also seen wheels with a bunch of weight on one end then 180 degrees away there are a bunch too, although not as many.
I agree your best bet it to have them rebalanced. Perhaps have the bead broken and move the tire on the rim slightly that may help too.
EDIT: I just read what i quoted and im repeating Dave
12-15-2009, 02:15 AM
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I used to work at a tire/suspension garage, and I can atest that a lot of the time if you saw a lot of weights on a rim it was because the installer made a mistake, didn't know what he was doing, or both.
I have seen installer spin up a rim, add the weights, spin check it, see it called for more weights (which means he put them on wrong), and then he added more weights without taking out what he put on the 1st time. End result is a lot of weights, poor to horrible balancing. An experienced installer will break the bead and rotate the tire on the rim when it calls for too much weight on the 1st spin. The newer balancing machines will even check and tell the installer to rotate the tire (whether they do it or not is the question).
Rob,
That is a lot of weight on that rim. I'd remove them and take the rim to a local trusted installer and have them check it and rotate the tire on the rim if need be. A little brake cleaner sprayed on a rag easily gets off that sticky weight goo.
I have seen installer spin up a rim, add the weights, spin check it, see it called for more weights (which means he put them on wrong), and then he added more weights without taking out what he put on the 1st time. End result is a lot of weights, poor to horrible balancing. An experienced installer will break the bead and rotate the tire on the rim when it calls for too much weight on the 1st spin. The newer balancing machines will even check and tell the installer to rotate the tire (whether they do it or not is the question).
Rob,
That is a lot of weight on that rim. I'd remove them and take the rim to a local trusted installer and have them check it and rotate the tire on the rim if need be. A little brake cleaner sprayed on a rag easily gets off that sticky weight goo.
We've actually spun wheels, by themselves and removed weight from the opposite side that asks for all the weight. Takes some serious time to get perfect, but sometimes that is what it takes.
12-15-2009, 02:24 AM
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Agreed, it's (almost) comical. Each square is 1/4 oz, there are 23 weights on that one wheel, or 3/8 of a pound. They're straight from Tire Rack, I assume they must mount more than a few wheels and tires- So either someone read their machine really wrong, or the wheel is totally FUBAR, or ??? They're not going on the car until I get them re-checked locally.
Something you will never overhear at Tire Rack:
"I know that Juan mounted 30 sets of wheels and tires today and I only did 4, but mine took less weight and are better, boss. The customer who gets mine will appreciate the effort and be happier."
12-18-2009, 10:36 PM
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I took the wheel to Greg yesterday, he spun it and it was still a little off even with the weights. I sent an e-mail to Damon at Tire Rack, and they're sending out another wheel/tire, no problem, no questions asked. I'm going to try on two of the others tomorrow for fitment purposes on the GT. Promise!