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Old 03-01-2009, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanPerrella
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why does that flywheel have that ring around it? I know thats an area that not in contact with the clutch surface, still i wonder why its there?
If you mean the outer ring, that's the lip that centers the IP on the flywheel -- later cars use pins for locating the IP. If you mean the groove in the flat surface I think that is there so that as the flywheel surface wears, it doesn't wear a pocket in the surface of the flywheel that will cause problems later if you swap in a new disc without resurfacing.
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Blanchard grinding is to rotary surface grinding as Kleenex is to tissue paper.
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Originally Posted by 123quattro
Yes, this is what everyone calls it.
Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Blanchard grinding is to rotary surface grinding as Kleenex is to tissue paper.
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Actually a better analogy would be:

Blanchard grinding is to rotary surface grinding as Xeroxing is the photocopying.

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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Actually a better analogy would be:

Blanchard grinding is to rotary surface grinding as Xeroxing is the photocopying.

So "Blanchard" is the machine thats used to do the rotary surface grinding?

i assume this is something like a decking machine or a planer or something, can you do this type of surfacing on the outer brake disc, the side which has the hub?
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Originally Posted by UKKid35
I realise a new flywheel would be preferable, but my budget doesn't stretch to an additional $600.

Can a flywheel be welded and then re-surfaced, safely? That could take care of surface cracks.
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Originally Posted by Fogey1
Can a flywheel be welded and then re-surfaced, safely? That could take care of surface cracks.
No. The temptation would be to metal-spray the surface and regrind, but the thermal stresses endured in normal use would strip off the new metal. Buy a good used one if the surface cracks don't grind out. It takes some serious surface cracking to get beyond the grinder's capabi;ities. If you have a doubt about it, let the machinist give you a specific opinion about the part that you have.
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I don't have a manual trasnmision, but damn! this thread was great........
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Originally Posted by RyanPerrella
So "Blanchard" is the machine thats used to do the rotary surface grinding?

i assume this is something like a decking machine or a planer or something, can you do this type of surfacing on the outer brake disc, the side which has the hub?
The machine is very similar to the grinding/decking/surfacing machine used for steel cylinder heads, but adds the ability to rotate the flywheel during the surfacing process. Heads are generally done in one direction, passing over the rotating grinding head.

Grinding brake rotors is a little more complex. Two rotary grinders are used, one set up on each side of the rotor. The grinding heads are maintained parallel as the rotor is slowly turned between them. It's a bit more complex than setting up a double single-cut on a disk lathe. And costs more. In many places, it's cheaper/better to just replace worn holed/slotted/relieved rotors even if they are still thick enough.

I will probably get holed rotors when I replace just because they look cool. Originals will come off with about 100k on them, and it's not real likely that I will live long enough to go through another set.
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also dont forget that for every bit of material removed from a flywheel, the less clamping force the pressure plate will have.
Yes, dump the cracked flywheel and get a good used one or new one.
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Originally Posted by dr bob
No. The temptation would be to metal-spray the surface and regrind, but the thermal stresses endured in normal use would strip off the new metal. Buy a good used one if the surface cracks don't grind out. It takes some serious surface cracking to get beyond the grinder's capabi;ities. If you have a doubt about it, let the machinist give you a specific opinion about the part that you have.

+1 I tried that years ago on an old drag car with alot of abuse given to it and destroyed the new disk in the process.If it's gone,say goodbye and get another. Ed.
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
also dont forget that for every bit of material removed from a flywheel, the less clamping force the pressure plate will have.
Mark, that makes no sense at all. Care to elaborate?
Old 03-02-2009, 02:27 PM
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Nevermind. I forgot that the mounting hole surface for the pressure plate would be machined as well. if you machine the pressure plate surface, then that could be an issue. (reduced clamping forces)

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Mark, that makes no sense at all. Care to elaborate?
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DAMMIT KIBORT LOL
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Paul, there's gotta be a brazillion places near london that will do this properly. i hear there are 1 or 2 manual transmission motor cars on your island.


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