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Old 12-28-2008, 01:53 PM
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Leslie, glad to hear those will be corrected.

My project is going slow as I have had a cold and lost some motivation, I do need to get cracking on it again though.
Old 12-28-2008, 02:28 PM
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Malcolm, dammit, I did know that, vaguely in the back of my mind.....*sigh*....I don't know what I was thinking. Maybe I should once in a while too.

You can see more pics through the link I put in my post last night, and I'd imagine we'll have more later today, too, which can be seen there as well once I upload them. The engine is starting to come out of the Euro as we speak.

As for the WP, Kevin's gotta finish up this car first, unfortunately. He can only deal with one crisis at a time.

There has been some progress. We may have sourced the elusive seals finally, and we are awaiting their arrival.

Colin, sorry to hear you've been under the weather...hope you feel better real soon. Looking forward to seeing some updates on your project thread!
Old 12-29-2008, 12:56 AM
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Kevin's been hard at work today taking the S2 apart. He's super tired tonight, so I hope these pictures are rather self-explanatory as he's not really up to narrating. Basically, the important point to note is that everything is disconnected on the Euro...





















So the Euro engine is ready to come out first thing in the morning, right after the hood is removed, and this is ready to go in!


Old 12-29-2008, 11:47 PM
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The S4 engine is now on the hoist chain (though resting on the floor) and is ready to pop into the car tomorrow (yeah right -- "pop" ). It took an inordinate amount of time to get the Euro engine out, and the S4 engine maneuvered into position for installation today, fighting against the extreme lack of space. The hoist is wedged between the car and the back of the garage, and couldn't be rolled back with the engine on it, to get it out of the car.

So the car had to move. Problem is, it's sticking halfway out of the garage, and the doors cannot be opened more than about 10 inches, as they hit the frame of the garage door. Those of you who have met him know, he can't fit through that space. He can barely get by the car to get in and out of the garage this way. Which meant he couldn't push from the car door jamb as he normally would, and steer and brake with the e-brake.

So I squoze into the car, and judiciously applied the brakes when called for, while he pushed the car, and hoisted the engine further up, and pushed the car, and hoisted the engine further up, until finally he was able to get the engine on the ground in front of the car. And that is where the car continues to sit. Half in and half out, with the garage door resting just in front of the windshield. For the second night.

He spent another good portion of the day working on removing the S2 LH wiring harness, fighting again with space because he forgot he lives with a short family. The passenger seat was in the forward position when he disconnected the battery the other day, and now he must wedge himself in the small space left to work with the fuse panel and computers. And clean up took a bit of time too, with all the work that has been done in there recently.

The engine sadly didn't manage to go in, because the friggin halogen lightbulb blew just before 5:00, and he decided to call it quits for the day rather than wait for me to run out and get a new one at that point.


So anyway, here are the pics of the day. Enjoy!


















Old 12-30-2008, 01:18 AM
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I wonder what you guys have planned for next year.
Old 12-30-2008, 01:38 AM
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Hmmmm....4x4?
Old 12-30-2008, 09:14 AM
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now is a great time to do the motormounts, Goodluck, Stan
Old 12-30-2008, 07:34 PM
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WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK TO MY WIFE ABOUT HELPING ME!
Old 12-30-2008, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
now is a great time to do the motormounts, Goodluck, Stan
Bah! Yeah, we were just telling ourselves this morning over coffee what friggin idiots we were for not having them sent too...but Kevin doesn't want to delay another three days, minimum, for delivery now, and has decided he will make his own solid mounts one of these days anyway. He has some ideas about making that an easier job that he wants to try out, anyway...

Originally Posted by Tampa 928s
WOULD YOU PLEASE TALK TO MY WIFE ABOUT HELPING ME!
Hahahaha! I will not!

You should see the condition of my hands and nails right now! My polish is half scraped off, and my hands are actually dirty!!!

I can't get them cleeeeeeeeean!!!! Aaaaagggggghhhhh!! And the dry skin! Yuck! The skin on my hands catches on my hose now and puts runs in it!


Lol....don't be too jealous. I've only spent about maybe 4 hours out there with him in the past I don't know how many weeks. I get relegated to sweeping floors, hauling garbage, sorting tools and carting parts to the basement every time I go out there to "help". I avoid that place like the plague!

But, I do have dirty hands at the moment, because I was "helping" clean the garage over the nice weather weekend...


I'm very helpful. I help real good. He told me to sort all his sockets out. lol. Bad move.

I sorted them all out, metric apart from standard, and I had these two neat little bubble wrap bags that the knock sensors came in that I was putting all his drives and extensions and small ratchets into one, and all his hex and alan head thingies into the other.

Well, he comes storming in about two nights ago, roaring cuz he couldn't find, for the past hour, a "single goddamned extension in the entire garage!!!" So I looked at him and calmly said, "Why, yes honey, you told me to sort the sockets out for you. I put all the standard sockets in the bottom of the tool box, and all the metrics in the top tray, and there are two plastic baggies thrown in the bottom box with your extensions and hex heads sorted out nice and neat. Just like you asked, dear!"

He left and didn't come back for a long time after that.




Apparently, as I later learned, my penchant for storing nuts and bolts and other tiny little automotive treasurers in baggies made him not think to look in the baggies in the toolbox, because he couldn't fathom putting tools in baggies!!



He really wanted to kill me after that one!
Old 12-30-2008, 10:43 PM
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Oh yeah, got so caught up in joking around I almost forgot about today's post.

The car fought Kevin hard today. She really didn't want to take her "pill." She didn't want to swallow that big ol' S4 engine....but Franken-Shark did finally suck it down.

It took Kevin most of the day to get the thing in there, what with the hoist giving him trouble because it's ancient, as is everything else he uses around here. Most all of his "good" tools are antiques, inherited from his father and grandfather from when they owned their long time transmission shop, now sold off almost 20 years ago. But he breaks anything new we give him , so he hangs in there with the 20-50 year old tools he has been working with his whole lifetime, which seem to stand the test of time.

The hoist is perhaps 30+ years old, and the piston is fading. All morning long, while it was very cold out there still, it kept sagging under the 700 pounds of engine, and then wouldn't go back up. Kevin had to lower it back to the floor and pump it up again. He lost a lot of day f*#^ing around with that thing, until it finally started working again around lunchtime. And thank the heavens for that, because we didn't know what we were going to do.

But......he didn't trust the thing, either.

He started the engine towards the engine bay and then realized he had to shorten the hoist legs as he rolled the hoist over the engine bay at the same time as lowering the engine, because the legs of the hoist ran into the control arms under the car. I felt useless as there was really no way I could help him. He wouldn't even let me near the deal, because he didn't want me to get my hands hurt (they are my mode of earning our livelihood, as a secretary --- plus, I'm unemployed at the moment, so there's no health insurance -- bad time to be going to the hospital ).

Fortunately, like an angel of mercy, Toofast928 (Tony) stopped by at the perfect moment to check in on Kevin and how things were going, and was able to offer some assistance with the final alignment of the engine prior to dropping it all the way into the compartment. Thanks Tony!!

After that, getting the wire harness through the firewall took some time and patience, being almost double the wires now. And the harness was stiff, so it took some finagling to prevent things from breaking.

But it's in. Sort of. Not bolted down yet, but bolted to the TT already. At least the hard part is over now, the rest is just work. Kevin's done in at this point, so he reluctantly called it a day then and decided to get back at it tomorrow.

Sucks, cuz winter's coming back tonight. He was really hoping he'd be bolting up the trans and stuff today, so that he wouldn't have to lay down on the ground when it's rainy and snowy again tomorrow. But Franken-Shark had her own ideas. *sigh*

But it will all be worth it in the end.


So today's photographic pictorama....have a pleasant evening.
















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Old 12-30-2008, 10:49 PM
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Roger..........we need to start a $$ thread so Kevin has a set of your great fender covers..........add $20 to my existing bill as my contribution.
Old 12-30-2008, 11:50 PM
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Awww, Malcolm, that's so sweet of you!

We're speechless! (For once! )

Old 12-31-2008, 12:50 AM
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Looking good...keep the pics and updates coming
Old 01-04-2009, 12:45 AM
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Thanks, Darien!

The re-arrival of winter drove a decision to bite the bullet on new motor mounts, as the old ones were not terrific. We weren't going to go the extra expense at first, but after Kevin got a better look at the ones on the car when he was dropping in the S4 motor the other day, and then snow held up the show for the next 2 days anyway, he groaned and said the gods were telling him something. So we received a set of Roger's solid motor mounts today...here they are next to the old ones.



Kevin also replaced the rack with another unit we had here, while he was installing the mm's, and that's mostly in too. The one that was on the car had about half an inch of play back and forth!

Tomorrow, he finishes buttoning up the rack install, finishes up the accessories under the hood and then moves on to the transmission.
Old 01-04-2009, 12:55 AM
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Kevin pay attention to the lower mount studs they can sometimes hit the thin fluid hoses that run across the tops of the rack if they do hit you will damage the hoses and possibly either crush them or hole them. Two solutions either add a few 1mm thick washers to the lower sides of the mounts (between the top of the Xmember and lower side of the mount) And OR cut the threads down so they are flush with the nuts


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