The morons that inhabit Washington are at it again, wanting to scrap older cars and use our tax dollars to encourage people to buy more 5h!tboxes.

More info here.

I'm waiting for a reply from the blog poster to see what can be done to help SEMA fight this.

 

Nice comment on the site Dave.

 

What next scrapping all of the aircraft that are over 20 years old???.
That might put some air carriers out of business.
Are the people that think this kind of stuff up on crack??
Why cant they start looking into fouled up mortgages and improper lending devices, and hi costs of fuel.
Devise a plan for less expensive well made autos with alternative fuel sources instead of targeting consumers, that have paid off cars that for the most part only contribute 4.67% of the overall fuel usage

 

Maybe a better way to inject money into the economy would be to plow Washington under and use all of the BS to fertilize cash crops...

 

Sounds like they want the hybrid car to be "The People's Car"

 

They want our guns and our beater rides? Damn!!!

 

in before move....

 

While this may be of general interest beyond shark owners, it does concern us. 928 content in thread title...

 

It seems to me that the automakers have already built enough cars to last everyone a very long time. All folks need to do is maintain them instead of repacing and junking them. Sure, a few new cars will always be needed but they should be expensive, well built, and last a very long time. Aha! 928 content!

So if the car manufacturers sold 1/4 the cars they do now, and instead focused providing parts and upgrades, would that be a bad thing? And isn't the 928 a prototype of how cars could be manufactured and preserved? In this case it isn't Porsche AG but independent suppliers, but the principle is the same.

Personally we're done with buying new cars, it just doesn't make sense-- economically or environmentally. The next-to-last new car we bought was the S4 in Nov '87 (porschie just turned 21!). It was a big deal, which buying a new car should be-- A stupid amount of money but something that we really wanted, and which our personal finances at that time allowed.

When our tavels took us elsewhere the 928 was something we hung onto, sometimes stored for years at a time and sometimes driven daily, part of the family.

We recently bought a '90GT and it's great to leverage the knowledge, spares and tools that we've gathered. We've also got a couple of trucks for hauling stuff around, 30/40 years old, been a long time since a greenhouse died to produce them.

The last new car we bought was a Volvo xc70, a perfectly competent car but completely without a soul. It is probably there somwere but buried beneath 14 layers of computers and plastic fascia's. I'll never find it because Volvo has copyrighted all of the service info, no such thing as an affordable service manual. I'm done with that nonsense.

Dave, if you find out how to carry this message further please let us know.

 

standard crap laws.....I really wonder where they get some of these ideas......WAY too much wacky weed on the hill I guess

 

It's late and I'm sitting in a warm room with a jacket on 'cause I'm too lazy to get up and take it off, so maybe I'm not thinking very clearly. But I'm not getting the same sense of foreboding that you guys are seeming to.

As I understand it, we are talking about a strictly voluntary program. If there is no governmental coersion to terminate an older car, what is it exactly that we should be afraid of?

If the weaker members of the car herd (future parts cars) are weeded out, it seems that it would only enhance the value of the remaining herd, and make it more plausable to spend the money necessary to maintain a healthier example of the breed.

In the end we will have a marque enjoying the type of stature that Ferrarri enjoys today.

I admit I'm wary of a program that would guarantee a trip to the crusher as opposed to dismantling, but if the parts and pieces can live on I lose that concern.

I'm sure I'm missing some sort of governmental domino affect that will negatively effect my ability to own and enjoy my 928's someday, and that is why I write, so that you can point it out to me, and I can jump on the bandwagon before it's too late.

 

Oh, c'mon. This is about clunker and junkers. I don't see anything in there that concerns me. The picture accompanying the article is disengenuous at best. This and some of the other spurious issues SEMA promotes gets them some coverage, and make them look stupid. And their publicist must be having a hard time justifying his account.

 

I hope you are right but wasn't the income tax supposed to be voluntary as well as temporary too?
I'd like to know how the overall environmental impact compares between a guy who keeps one car for a 30 or 40 year life span versus the guy who buys a new eco-friendly car every 3 or 4 years!

 

Ok, first off this type of stuff is driven by the auto makers. They want to get the legislature to put their camel nose under the tent of private auto ownership. Today, voluntary - tomorrow, you'll need a dealer/collector 'license' to keep a car > 20 years old. After that, special plates, permits, show only, etc. it's already being done in Texas with the vintage plates. You're only allowed to drive a vintage plate car to and from shows, and for repairs.

Next, and most important why should the gummint be involved in what car a person owns? We rely on the gummint to provide the roads for public use, but I can't see where that public use comes with strings attached as to what year, make, model of car I choose to operate. And I can understand seat belt and safety laws, but they are not retroactive. I have two collector cars with no seat belts and no provision for seat belts. I can still drive them because I assume liability for crash damage to myself. If another car hits me, and I don't have a belt on, then they still are liable up to the premium limit.

One more part of your life given over to the feds eventually.

 

When you involve the government in a facet of life, it invariable gets F***ked up.
Examples include the railroads, the telecommunications industry, the airline industry, the health care industry, and banking. Now they want to control the auto industry.
This all stems from politician's beliefs that tax dollars are the government's money, and the government knows best how to spend it. AT some point people should wake up and realize that it is NOT the government's money, but yours, mine and our money that the government is spending. END OF RANT (for now)