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#107
Yep everyone runs at the same time and there are no classes, didn't mean to mislead you there. With 75 entries I thought it would be a glorified queue but I was mistaken, it was a blast. They break the race into two 8-hour sessions, one on Saturday and one on Sunday. Yeah I know that's not literally 24 hours but math isn't Jay's strong suit.
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You should be able to go with the .095 since you should be way under 3000lbs. Hell you might even be the lightest 928 racer on record! Dump the rear hatch and windows, side windows, all lights, bumper shocks, maybe even the bumpers themselves.
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SAFETY DONATIONS AND DATES...
Haven't followed entire thread.. (my loss, I know)....
What is the first date / location you are targeting?
Some of us need to schedule time off in advance...
And - safety donations... on scene VOLUNTEER Doc... but, uh, hold the pics - unless they come with unlimited cappuccino!
Thanks!
Doc
What is the first date / location you are targeting?
Some of us need to schedule time off in advance...
And - safety donations... on scene VOLUNTEER Doc... but, uh, hold the pics - unless they come with unlimited cappuccino!
Thanks!
Doc
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H-E-L-L-O !!
This doesn't look too good... unless there is another thread I'm oblivious to.
Any update... or is everyone deep in the lemon-man-cave??
Please advise!!
Thanks...
Doc
Any update... or is everyone deep in the lemon-man-cave??
Please advise!!
Thanks...
Doc
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RA-1 tires in stock 16" size in Florida
Not sure if you guys are running the stock wheels.
Are tires part of safety equipment or part of the total cost limit?
RA-1 tires in stock 16" size in Florida
Not sure if you guys are running the stock wheels.
Are tires part of safety equipment or part of the total cost limit?
#115
Hey everybody. my names Clint im a lemons vetran, ive been to the altamont 2008 race and the thunderhill 2008 race. i helped build the Black metal
V8 Volvo a mighty Ford 302 powered '84 volvo 244
A bunch of info on the build > http://jalopnik.com/search/lemons%20v8%20volvo/
I raced in the thunderhill race, our car was one of the top 5 fastest out there.
I was also a head tech inspector for all the cars, so IF YOU HAVE ANY TECH QUESTIONS FOR LEMONS I CAN ANSWER THEM. IM AN OFFICIAL INSPECTOR (so send in the bribes now lol)
I work at Evil Genius Racing (EGR) in west sacramento, im the one that is building the cage in Brians ( IcemanG17) '89 S4 and has done the rest of the fabrication work. id love to help you guys out, but seeing as you guys are on the opposite side of the country i cant really come over for a build night, but if you have any questions that an experienced fabricator/ lemon racer could answer im here. also not to sound like im trying to push my shops business on you but we are possibly going to build some 928 cage kits, we build spec miata and E30 kits all which are top notch NASA and SCCA legal. so if you want a sweet cage, i can help you out. for fab parts check out the web site: www.evilgeniusracing.com
cheers
-wolff
V8 Volvo a mighty Ford 302 powered '84 volvo 244
A bunch of info on the build > http://jalopnik.com/search/lemons%20v8%20volvo/
I raced in the thunderhill race, our car was one of the top 5 fastest out there.
I was also a head tech inspector for all the cars, so IF YOU HAVE ANY TECH QUESTIONS FOR LEMONS I CAN ANSWER THEM. IM AN OFFICIAL INSPECTOR (so send in the bribes now lol)
I work at Evil Genius Racing (EGR) in west sacramento, im the one that is building the cage in Brians ( IcemanG17) '89 S4 and has done the rest of the fabrication work. id love to help you guys out, but seeing as you guys are on the opposite side of the country i cant really come over for a build night, but if you have any questions that an experienced fabricator/ lemon racer could answer im here. also not to sound like im trying to push my shops business on you but we are possibly going to build some 928 cage kits, we build spec miata and E30 kits all which are top notch NASA and SCCA legal. so if you want a sweet cage, i can help you out. for fab parts check out the web site: www.evilgeniusracing.com
cheers
-wolff
#116
so a few things ive seen about what you want to use:
Ra1s, they are not legal, must use 200 + wear. we used kumho anexias tires that lasted 2 full lemons races. many people ( many top cars) used them in december t-hill, they get worn in and stick well with 2.5 or so degrees of camber, my volvo should be simular on paper with a 928- 2800lbs or a bit more, around 55%= weight up front.
brakes, go stock, they will be fine you are not exceeding 100mph, the tracks are set up to keep you slow, get some porterfield/hawk pads and your good. the volvo had 4 pots and twins in back with turbo vented rotors so id consider them better than a early 928 set up and we never got them hot.
if you bring and 928 to lemons and it doesnt look like it has been throught a garbage disposal it will be inspected more than normal, we take suspeceted expensive cars off to the side and remove valve covers, wheels or what ever to see if you have expensive parts inside like coil overs or roller rockers ( not aplicable in a 928 case but you know) the way to get past the BS inspection is to have really good documentation and a good story, who cares if its fake, if it makes Phil and Jonny laugh and like you, you will pass
Lemons used to be a high contact sport in some tracks like altamont ( i was there when Court somerfield died in his volvo 242) our volvo got hammered! our 15mm thick aluminum bumpers got twisted and smashed, many cars didnt make it long so keeping the bumper gaurds is a good idea.
since the altamont accident things calmed down, at thunder hill we got 3 door dings ( we did wreak into the k wall during practice from broken power steering but thats another story) but you cant add brush gaurds or any heavy metal beyond the factory car outline, bumpers help push those slower cars out of the way
Strip everything out, everything, glass is not needed except for the windshield, you dont need a dash, maybe a defrost if its cold out. installing a large fuel tanks is a really really good idea, races have been won and lost on pitting for fuel. most lemons winners only pit once or twice in 16hrs
again you wont be going very fast so a wing may not do much but dont bother with a oem one, make one to avoid BS and and fun the to the cars look, remember lemons car are supposed to be weird or outrageous, Jay loves that, you want jay to love it and yes beer in the trunk help the Bs inspection
yes all safetey items are "free" all fuel related stuff too but dont go installing polished super injectors and platnium fuel rails, etc that WILL grab the attention of the BS judges, they ask about everything and eye candy makes them dig deeper, so cover that platnium rail with pig **** and twigs alteast lol
No they dont weigh every car, if you bring a big american yaht we may if you cage isnt beefy, i inspected some really sad cages, some circle track car showed up with house plumbing tacked together with a stick welder where the longest piece was 20" long, oh and the fuel tank in the rear seat area was glued in with expanding foam and a strip of plumbers tape, but the pastic fuel filter half melted to the exhasut manifold was the cherry on top. yeah scary.
any more safety questions?
cheers
-wolff
Ra1s, they are not legal, must use 200 + wear. we used kumho anexias tires that lasted 2 full lemons races. many people ( many top cars) used them in december t-hill, they get worn in and stick well with 2.5 or so degrees of camber, my volvo should be simular on paper with a 928- 2800lbs or a bit more, around 55%= weight up front.
brakes, go stock, they will be fine you are not exceeding 100mph, the tracks are set up to keep you slow, get some porterfield/hawk pads and your good. the volvo had 4 pots and twins in back with turbo vented rotors so id consider them better than a early 928 set up and we never got them hot.
if you bring and 928 to lemons and it doesnt look like it has been throught a garbage disposal it will be inspected more than normal, we take suspeceted expensive cars off to the side and remove valve covers, wheels or what ever to see if you have expensive parts inside like coil overs or roller rockers ( not aplicable in a 928 case but you know) the way to get past the BS inspection is to have really good documentation and a good story, who cares if its fake, if it makes Phil and Jonny laugh and like you, you will pass
Lemons used to be a high contact sport in some tracks like altamont ( i was there when Court somerfield died in his volvo 242) our volvo got hammered! our 15mm thick aluminum bumpers got twisted and smashed, many cars didnt make it long so keeping the bumper gaurds is a good idea.
since the altamont accident things calmed down, at thunder hill we got 3 door dings ( we did wreak into the k wall during practice from broken power steering but thats another story) but you cant add brush gaurds or any heavy metal beyond the factory car outline, bumpers help push those slower cars out of the way
Strip everything out, everything, glass is not needed except for the windshield, you dont need a dash, maybe a defrost if its cold out. installing a large fuel tanks is a really really good idea, races have been won and lost on pitting for fuel. most lemons winners only pit once or twice in 16hrs
again you wont be going very fast so a wing may not do much but dont bother with a oem one, make one to avoid BS and and fun the to the cars look, remember lemons car are supposed to be weird or outrageous, Jay loves that, you want jay to love it and yes beer in the trunk help the Bs inspection
yes all safetey items are "free" all fuel related stuff too but dont go installing polished super injectors and platnium fuel rails, etc that WILL grab the attention of the BS judges, they ask about everything and eye candy makes them dig deeper, so cover that platnium rail with pig **** and twigs alteast lol
No they dont weigh every car, if you bring a big american yaht we may if you cage isnt beefy, i inspected some really sad cages, some circle track car showed up with house plumbing tacked together with a stick welder where the longest piece was 20" long, oh and the fuel tank in the rear seat area was glued in with expanding foam and a strip of plumbers tape, but the pastic fuel filter half melted to the exhasut manifold was the cherry on top. yeah scary.
any more safety questions?
cheers
-wolff
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Hey everybody. my names Clint im a lemons vetran, ive been to the altamont 2008 race and the thunderhill 2008 race. i helped build the Black metal
V8 Volvo a mighty Ford 302 powered '84 volvo 244
A bunch of info on the build > http://jalopnik.com/search/lemons%20v8%20volvo/
I raced in the thunderhill race, our car was one of the top 5 fastest out there.
I was also a head tech inspector for all the cars, so IF YOU HAVE ANY TECH QUESTIONS FOR LEMONS I CAN ANSWER THEM. IM AN OFFICIAL INSPECTOR (so send in the bribes now lol)
I work at Evil Genius Racing (EGR) in west sacramento, im the one that is building the cage in Brians ( IcemanG17) '89 S4 and has done the rest of the fabrication work. id love to help you guys out, but seeing as you guys are on the opposite side of the country i cant really come over for a build night, but if you have any questions that an experienced fabricator/ lemon racer could answer im here. also not to sound like im trying to push my shops business on you but we are possibly going to build some 928 cage kits, we build spec miata and E30 kits all which are top notch NASA and SCCA legal. so if you want a sweet cage, i can help you out. for fab parts check out the web site: www.evilgeniusracing.com
cheers
-wolff
V8 Volvo a mighty Ford 302 powered '84 volvo 244
A bunch of info on the build > http://jalopnik.com/search/lemons%20v8%20volvo/
I raced in the thunderhill race, our car was one of the top 5 fastest out there.
I was also a head tech inspector for all the cars, so IF YOU HAVE ANY TECH QUESTIONS FOR LEMONS I CAN ANSWER THEM. IM AN OFFICIAL INSPECTOR (so send in the bribes now lol)
I work at Evil Genius Racing (EGR) in west sacramento, im the one that is building the cage in Brians ( IcemanG17) '89 S4 and has done the rest of the fabrication work. id love to help you guys out, but seeing as you guys are on the opposite side of the country i cant really come over for a build night, but if you have any questions that an experienced fabricator/ lemon racer could answer im here. also not to sound like im trying to push my shops business on you but we are possibly going to build some 928 cage kits, we build spec miata and E30 kits all which are top notch NASA and SCCA legal. so if you want a sweet cage, i can help you out. for fab parts check out the web site: www.evilgeniusracing.com
cheers
-wolff
so a few things ive seen about what you want to use:
Ra1s, they are not legal, must use 200 + wear. we used kumho anexias tires that lasted 2 full lemons races. many people ( many top cars) used them in december t-hill, they get worn in and stick well with 2.5 or so degrees of camber, my volvo should be simular on paper with a 928- 2800lbs or a bit more, around 55%= weight up front.
brakes, go stock, they will be fine you are not exceeding 100mph, the tracks are set up to keep you slow, get some porterfield/hawk pads and your good. the volvo had 4 pots and twins in back with turbo vented rotors so id consider them better than a early 928 set up and we never got them hot.
if you bring and 928 to lemons and it doesnt look like it has been throught a garbage disposal it will be inspected more than normal, we take suspeceted expensive cars off to the side and remove valve covers, wheels or what ever to see if you have expensive parts inside like coil overs or roller rockers ( not aplicable in a 928 case but you know) the way to get past the BS inspection is to have really good documentation and a good story, who cares if its fake, if it makes Phil and Jonny laugh and like you, you will pass
Lemons used to be a high contact sport in some tracks like altamont ( i was there when Court somerfield died in his volvo 242) our volvo got hammered! our 15mm thick aluminum bumpers got twisted and smashed, many cars didnt make it long so keeping the bumper gaurds is a good idea.
since the altamont accident things calmed down, at thunder hill we got 3 door dings ( we did wreak into the k wall during practice from broken power steering but thats another story) but you cant add brush gaurds or any heavy metal beyond the factory car outline, bumpers help push those slower cars out of the way
Strip everything out, everything, glass is not needed except for the windshield, you dont need a dash, maybe a defrost if its cold out. installing a large fuel tanks is a really really good idea, races have been won and lost on pitting for fuel. most lemons winners only pit once or twice in 16hrs
again you wont be going very fast so a wing may not do much but dont bother with a oem one, make one to avoid BS and and fun the to the cars look, remember lemons car are supposed to be weird or outrageous, Jay loves that, you want jay to love it and yes beer in the trunk help the Bs inspection
yes all safetey items are "free" all fuel related stuff too but dont go installing polished super injectors and platnium fuel rails, etc that WILL grab the attention of the BS judges, they ask about everything and eye candy makes them dig deeper, so cover that platnium rail with pig **** and twigs alteast lol
No they dont weigh every car, if you bring a big american yaht we may if you cage isnt beefy, i inspected some really sad cages, some circle track car showed up with house plumbing tacked together with a stick welder where the longest piece was 20" long, oh and the fuel tank in the rear seat area was glued in with expanding foam and a strip of plumbers tape, but the pastic fuel filter half melted to the exhasut manifold was the cherry on top. yeah scary.
any more safety questions?
cheers
-wolff
Ra1s, they are not legal, must use 200 + wear. we used kumho anexias tires that lasted 2 full lemons races. many people ( many top cars) used them in december t-hill, they get worn in and stick well with 2.5 or so degrees of camber, my volvo should be simular on paper with a 928- 2800lbs or a bit more, around 55%= weight up front.
brakes, go stock, they will be fine you are not exceeding 100mph, the tracks are set up to keep you slow, get some porterfield/hawk pads and your good. the volvo had 4 pots and twins in back with turbo vented rotors so id consider them better than a early 928 set up and we never got them hot.
if you bring and 928 to lemons and it doesnt look like it has been throught a garbage disposal it will be inspected more than normal, we take suspeceted expensive cars off to the side and remove valve covers, wheels or what ever to see if you have expensive parts inside like coil overs or roller rockers ( not aplicable in a 928 case but you know) the way to get past the BS inspection is to have really good documentation and a good story, who cares if its fake, if it makes Phil and Jonny laugh and like you, you will pass
Lemons used to be a high contact sport in some tracks like altamont ( i was there when Court somerfield died in his volvo 242) our volvo got hammered! our 15mm thick aluminum bumpers got twisted and smashed, many cars didnt make it long so keeping the bumper gaurds is a good idea.
since the altamont accident things calmed down, at thunder hill we got 3 door dings ( we did wreak into the k wall during practice from broken power steering but thats another story) but you cant add brush gaurds or any heavy metal beyond the factory car outline, bumpers help push those slower cars out of the way
Strip everything out, everything, glass is not needed except for the windshield, you dont need a dash, maybe a defrost if its cold out. installing a large fuel tanks is a really really good idea, races have been won and lost on pitting for fuel. most lemons winners only pit once or twice in 16hrs
again you wont be going very fast so a wing may not do much but dont bother with a oem one, make one to avoid BS and and fun the to the cars look, remember lemons car are supposed to be weird or outrageous, Jay loves that, you want jay to love it and yes beer in the trunk help the Bs inspection
yes all safetey items are "free" all fuel related stuff too but dont go installing polished super injectors and platnium fuel rails, etc that WILL grab the attention of the BS judges, they ask about everything and eye candy makes them dig deeper, so cover that platnium rail with pig **** and twigs alteast lol
No they dont weigh every car, if you bring a big american yaht we may if you cage isnt beefy, i inspected some really sad cages, some circle track car showed up with house plumbing tacked together with a stick welder where the longest piece was 20" long, oh and the fuel tank in the rear seat area was glued in with expanding foam and a strip of plumbers tape, but the pastic fuel filter half melted to the exhasut manifold was the cherry on top. yeah scary.
any more safety questions?
cheers
-wolff
Welcome aboard.
I will surely take you up on your offer of answering questions. I have been tasked with fabbing the cage and the paint job. I will have some questions when it's time to build the cage. We were thinking about a satin black rustoleum paint job with a white jolly roger painted on the car. Do you think that would make the car look too nice? Right now it is silver and rust. It was actually used as a chicken coop for a couple of years.
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Welcome aboard.
I will surely take you up on your offer of answering questions. I have been tasked with fabbing the cage and the paint job. I will have some questions when it's time to build the cage. We were thinking about a satin black rustoleum paint job with a white jolly roger painted on the car. Do you think that would make the car look too nice? Right now it is silver and rust. It was actually used as a chicken coop for a couple of years.
I will surely take you up on your offer of answering questions. I have been tasked with fabbing the cage and the paint job. I will have some questions when it's time to build the cage. We were thinking about a satin black rustoleum paint job with a white jolly roger painted on the car. Do you think that would make the car look too nice? Right now it is silver and rust. It was actually used as a chicken coop for a couple of years.
What we really need - is a volunteer to clean the chicken crap out of the car.....
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Then, this evening, I installed a new coolant expansion tank on the widebody in hopes that I could drive that down to Sebring tomorrow. Well, during the pressure test I found that both side tanks on my adiator are now leaking.
So to make a long story short, I don't know if I'm coming tomorrow. I only have the 84 to drive and I really wanted to bring something different. If the go karts were in operation i would make the trip, but with no go karts, the decision is a little more difficult.
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Since it's an Ex-Chicken Coop car, guess you can mount the rubber chicken inside the 'B' pillar of the roll cage as part of the helmet cushion for any driver's side impacts. Strap the chicken to the outside of the roll cage foam.
Landshark says:" Chicken. Hmmm. Tastes like chicken."
Landshark says:" Chicken. Hmmm. Tastes like chicken."