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Old 11-08-2008, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ew928
Is the later black a straight black or does it have a clearcoat?
Just wondering if the paint is easy to rescue.

Too bad there's no memory in the LH to log true mileage. (If the LH has not been swapped).
didnt the black ONLY come as a single stage? even in late GTS days?

This would be news to me if porsche went to base/clear for black at anytime in the 928's lifecycle.
Old 11-08-2008, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
Hey, it'd be better for you if it got sold to a noob. It could then spend the next 4 months and $$$$$$ in your shop getting it somewhat right.
I could wish, but at the moment, I don't think the owners are very happy with me.
Old 11-08-2008, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanPerrella
didnt the black ONLY come as a single stage? even in late GTS days?

This would be news to me if porsche went to base/clear for black at anytime in the 928's lifecycle.
My 95 GTS was base coat clear coat.
Old 11-08-2008, 10:16 AM
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I would rather have this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3741&viewitem=
Old 11-08-2008, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cold_beer839
that is a sweet looking car, but I get the sense of a previous wreck. A complete paint job on a '95? Also, no indication of clear title - could be salvage? The price seems low for a good example '95 5 speed.
Old 11-08-2008, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Z
My 95 GTS was base coat clear coat.
cool, didnt know that.

Do you know what year they went from single stage to base/clear? Was it done in 92 with the GTS or ?

Whats your opinion of the factory two stage paints? I do consider the single stage to be VERY VERY good and very durable. They still can be made to look amazing today and they are now 20 years old.

Do you hold the two stage paint in the later cars in the same regard? Ive never played with one so i cant say i have an opinion.
Old 11-08-2008, 06:28 PM
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This has gone slightly OT: sooo, on my '85 front black bumper, I have a small chip which shows red underneath. I don't know of any prior accident, or have any such indication such as dents or misfit panels around the bumper, but, don't laugh, was there such a thing as a red primer? Is there any other possibility besides primer or a non-original bumper?

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Old 11-08-2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveG
This has gone slightly OT: sooo, on my '85 front black bumper, I have a small chip which shows red underneath. I don't know of any prior accident, or have any such indication such as dents or misfit panels around the bumper, but, don't laugh, was there such a thing as a red primer? Is there any other possibility besides primer or a non-original bumper?
sounds like a repainted bumper. As in it came off another car and was just sprayed over.

There are tinted primers, but Porsche never used that, and if you used a tinted primer the tint is close to the same color as the base coat so that when you do get chips its not so noticeable. Meaning you wouldnt use a red tinted primer under a black basecoat
Old 11-08-2008, 09:56 PM
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I think someone switched cars on you.
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My '94 is base coat and clear. Still looks great.
Old 11-09-2008, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
that is a sweet looking car, but I get the sense of a previous wreck. A complete paint job on a '95? Also, no indication of clear title - could be salvage? The price seems low for a good example '95 5 speed.
There aren't too many '95 GTS 5-spds out there, so even if it has been wrecked and properly repaired, it is still an excellent deal at $38k with 66k miles.
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Originally Posted by wds928
My '94 is base coat and clear. Still looks great.
Are these late MY two stage paints water based? If yes maybe thats the reason for it.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Are these late MY two stage paints water based? If yes maybe thats the reason for it.
I thought the water based paints lead to the real crappy finishes. ALA Zermatt Silver which seems to be notorious for very poor finishes in todays terms
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Originally Posted by RyanPerrella
I thought the water based paints lead to the real crappy finishes. ALA Zermatt Silver which seems to be notorious for very poor finishes in todays terms
Porsche has problems early on with water based paints, especially with Zermatt silver. They must have figure out way to deal with it as only water based is in use now and have been for years. I think they had those problems solved before GTS production ended. This doesn't mean clear coat paints mentioned in this thread are water based. It just could be explanation for it. Paint number should tell which version they are.
Old 11-09-2008, 10:10 AM
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I've polished out both two stage and single stage 928's and I agree that the single stage look much nicer and are much easier to bring back. The tough part of a single stage is that they seem to clog up the polishing pads faster and need to be changed our or cleaned several times to complete an entire car.

It's really a bummer that this car hasn't been cared for. It is a rare find and definitely would have collector status but I don't think it's worth reviving unless you plan to keep it and enjoy it. Actually Chuck, that is what you're looking for isn't it.....



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