cold_beer839

Nobody here was born yesterday, there are indeed bad cops, and some are damn criminals to be honest. I have seen some wearing my own uniform, and it makes me sick like nothing else in the world, and it is horribly shameful. But, the good ones must carry on and continue to serve our fellow citizens and earn respect for our agencies, our uniform, our badge, and ourselves.

Officers impounding cars over BS laws when they didn't have to? Damn right, I've even seen it done by guys I work with. Some of us can be real ball busters. The only time I have HAD to do it is when I have arrested a drunk driver with a current revocation for impaired driving. Hell with those bastards, regardless of what kind of car it was, they are a loaded weapon rolling down the highway waiting to kill. Impounding cars over parking tickets? I don't have time for that BS. It's not even a law in NC anyway.

Cops involved with stolen cars? Yes, I knew of a NC State Trooper that was involved with that, and even committed murder to hide the fact. Bastard is doing a life sentence right now and I hope he gets raped in the shower every single day. That was before my time on the NCSHP though, about 17 years ago, but it still is shameful. I have 11 years on.

Every profession has it's turds, law enforcement is no different. We even had a bad astronaut last year, crazy bitch drove halfway across the country wearing a diaper to kidnap and probably kill her rival lover. So, no profession is 'clean'. Lets not even begin to talk about Priests....

Anyway, enough preaching.

That's me on the first motorcycle. It may not look like it, but that is 129 mph coming out of turn # 4 at Lowe's Motor Speedway. That is all the '04 BMW 1150 RTP has, unless it is being pulled by a 928.

Red UFO

No its not a cop hater forum, its a place where people sometimes rant when they get speeding tickets, or profiled conspiracys on the paint color of their sharks, or was handed a raw deal on petty *** parking infractions, and the good cops chime in and it evens out in the end. Then sometimes i come along and say what Bill Maher would in the thread and muck it up. We get great advice from cops and Ron H, Jim and lawyers and the local brainics on here, then I say I'm sorry I was trolling SeanTT eat the bait we call it a day and we all love the same car.

Thats this place

bcdavis

Also, it says something if people are complaining about the laws being enforced.

Nothing against the officers doing their job, but it should make both us, and them, think about the fact that no one has a problem with them busting rapists, or murderers, or car thieves.

If they are out there enforcing laws that we all support and respect, we have nothing but praise for them going out there are risking their lives against the crazies out there.

MGW-Fla

I've read every post on this thread and truly the only one worth remembering is Big Dave's classic!

Mike B

My humble advise is, DON'T SPEED!

Ron_H

Nothing personal but..................there is no such thing as "speeding". Moreover, most on this forum, as well as most drivers in this country "speed", including I suspect, you. The system is set up to insure that it will happen every hour of every day. Some of the police know it, the courts know it, many attorneys know it, the traffic engineers know it, and of course the insurance companies bank on it. If you didn't "speed" you would be an unusual driver in this country, and contrary to the norm as expressed in sound engineering practices, which are formulated, codified and then routinely ignored. Even if you vigorously try not to do it, you will. Don't ask me how I could know this, but I do. You are a human being and your behaviour is predictable. And all of those mentioned above profit by that fact and aren't about to abandon that cash cow readily, whether your behaviour presents a danger to this society or not.

Ron_H

Nothing personal but..................there is no such thing as "speeding". Moreover, most on this forum, as well as most drivers in this country "speed", including I suspect, you. The system is set up to insure that it will happen every hour of every day. Some of the police know it, the courts know it, many attorneys know it, the traffic engineers know it, and of course the insurance companies bank on it. If you didn't "speed" you would be an unusual driver in this country, and contrary to the norm as expressed in sound engineering practices, which are formulated, codified and then routinely ignored. Even if you vigorously try not to do it, you will. Don't ask me how I could know this, but I do. You are a human being and your behaviour is predictable. And all of those mentioned above profit by that fact and aren't about to abandon that cash cow readily, whether your behaviour presents a danger to this society or not.
I have posted the following summary once previously. If you study it maybe you will realize what I am saying. It is from a Caltrans record of ONE 24 HOUR DAY on a SoCal freeway.

Ron_H

I must BEG your pardon, Mike. I see you are not a US citizen. I am speaking of this country, not Canada, as of course I don't have direct knowledge of your laws and procedures.
And to all others, please pardon the double post.

Nicole

Well said, Ron!

And that brings us to the cops: Their job is to enforce the laws we have - they don't make them. They also don't put up the speed limit signs.

Most cops are actually quite nice, but a few are in it so they can legally do on the job what used to get them in trouble before (fight, shoot, speed, etc). At least that's what a cop customer of mine once told me...

What I don't like is when they hide with their radar or LIDAR guns in areas where there is no traffic or traffic flows faster than the posted signs. This is obviously not to make the roads safer, but to collect a form of tax for the government. I officially oppose the speed tax, particularly on freeways! I can understand the red-light tax, and a few others, including the "extreme speeding tax", "street racing tax", or "tailgating tax" (which I have never seen collected).

Another thing I don't like is to be lectured about safe driving. If an officer tells me that driving at the 65 mph limit is safe in case an oncoming truck veers over to my lane, but 73 in a Porsche is not, then I don't know what world this guy lives in. I want to see one person who survives a 65mph head-on crash with a truck... I say that if you can't avoid the colission, you are toast, no matter what you drive.

The key is to be alert, and not doze-off at a cozy, boring, and supposedly safe 65mph, and drive a car that can manoever around the moving obstacle. I'm not sure, what driving Crown Victorias teaches you in that respect - I've never driven one, but I brake whenever I see one.

Again, the existence of that number is not the cop's fault - it's the lecturing that drives me nuts! Tell me I've broken the law, here is the citation, and good-bye. Please save me from the "This is not the Autobahn" BS! Thanks!

Warren928

Exactly most people's thoughts. But God bless America, where a lawyer can invent a way to profit off rules that don't make sense and they can find someone that wants some cash, to go out and harrass and fine people over it!

Stupidity kills! Not speed.

Speaking of which, a study was done and it was found that 30% of cops were into continuous criminal behavior while on the job. In other words, bad cops. This study was done by a senior administrative person at the Chicago P.D. recently.

So its 1 out of 3. I seem to run into the first 1/3rd of them!

Ron_H

I know an attorney in California who does profit quite well from stupid rules. And he is a very effective attorney who specializes in traffic cases; extreme cases. When he appears in court, the DA himself is usually present if he knows about it beforehand to counter this attorney's motions and preserve what is sure to be a destruction of the prosecution's case. We have tried to convince him to join our efforts to reform the traffic laws. He is so adamantly opposed to one of our strategies that he has refused to speak to one of our advocates, who once was a close friend of his. He will speak to me but not about this issue. He knows the strategy is correctly founded in the truth and the law is not. He knows we can win if we push this issue. He also knows that if we do, and when we do, his practice will probably disappear. He would need to return to general criminal defense. Obviously, he would prefer to continue milking the system.

aggravation

I can handle the occasional bad cop, it happens in all professions, and I'll even put up with the fact that many cops will rationalize when they engage in over-enforcement with the fact that technically they are within the law to do something like impound a car when they really shouldn't by any logical standard....

All that I can handle, but ****ing lawyers like the one you just described are the root of all evil!! His desire to milk the system is not just greedy, it's criminal and it is exactly that kind of lawyer that has poisoned our otherwise damn fine system of government.

We should be able to hunt lawyers for sport. At the very least they should be banned from any form of government job or elected office. Nothing personal, just looking out for the future of our representative republic.

ew928

Cheney tried that already. Didn't catch on.


Isn't a disproportionate number of the Congress/Senate from a lawyering background.

aggravation

Yep, and you can draw a direct parallel with the increasing percentage of lawyers elected to congress with the increase in the volumes of tax code that create loopholes, exemptions and favors for their friends, family and campaign donors!

If we outlawed lobbiests and all campaign donations by any entity other than a voter (limit that to a small dollar amount), and implement the FairTax you would see the predators filter out of office and the integrity of true statesman type representation filter back in.

OK, I'm off my soapbox, let the cop bashing resume

928saregreat

I support our police officers completely. If there's anything that I can ever do to help them I will. They have an unbelievably difficult job and their "clients" that they deal with day in and day out are the most negative, vicious individuals society has ever created. The people police deal with are criminals, you can't forget that. It's not a normal situation at all.

I salute them, our thin blue line, and I thank them for their hard work keeping us and our loved ones safe and I thank God that they're out there to protect.

Mark