Is this the "I hate cops" forum?
04-17-2008, 12:50 PM
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I am afraid that I have to agree with Red_UFOs comments.
If you got offended by a comment on the internet about police in general, you should not be a cop.
Just remember absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I do not agree with the speed limits on the roads, and that a car like the 928 with a driver that has only been on the road is apparently only safe enough to drive the same speed as a semi which weights multiple times more, and has been on the road for 12+ hours. Give me a break.
As well the stats over here are skewed to say that speeding kills. But look at the EU or germany, MUCH higher limits and far less accidents.
I personally have no respect for ANY cop when I first meet them, and if they come off on a complete power trip, I will rip them off that power trip VERY fast. If they treat me with respect and understand that we are equals, then I will treat him the same dignaty
If you got offended by a comment on the internet about police in general, you should not be a cop.
Just remember absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I do not agree with the speed limits on the roads, and that a car like the 928 with a driver that has only been on the road is apparently only safe enough to drive the same speed as a semi which weights multiple times more, and has been on the road for 12+ hours. Give me a break.
As well the stats over here are skewed to say that speeding kills. But look at the EU or germany, MUCH higher limits and far less accidents.
I personally have no respect for ANY cop when I first meet them, and if they come off on a complete power trip, I will rip them off that power trip VERY fast. If they treat me with respect and understand that we are equals, then I will treat him the same dignaty
04-17-2008, 01:06 PM
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I respect a persons opinion on this forum. If I am offended I just read a different thread.As for cop bashing ,I was a Police Officer for 5 years,that is a difficult profession .People often armchair quarterback your decisions even though they have no idea of all of the dynamics involved with the incident. If citizens think that they can do a better job of Law Enforcement take classes ,sign up to enter the Police Academy you will quickly see that that job is no walk in the park .
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04-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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Well everytime a person gets pulled over the cop armchair quarterbacking the persons life right on the spot most of the times with no remorse, little thought and couldn't care less if his actions ruins the persons life and made a mistake. Then get there panties in a bunch when they aren't praised like football heros online. I guess they don't like to read real reports of how another cop treated somebody like garbage.
My buddys friend was a manager of Safeway for 10 years he made over $70k a year. But he always wanted to be a cop, so at age 32 he quit and became a Tempe police offficer. We called him Potsy because he looked like the guy from Happy Days. His first week on the job he totalled his cruiser, was his fault. He ended up demoted to street walking in downtown Tempe. He then got divorced, and quit after only 1 year because the pay was so low he coudldn't keep his head above water.
He was a douche bag, not because he was a cop. He was always a douche and the type who never should be a cop he was a control freak, and wrecked his life after he got to experience being a cop wasn't as fun as he thought. I'm glad he quit, the very idea of him pulling me over, thats if he wasn't so stupid they'd let him drive a cop car just made me want to vomit if I got busted by Potsy for speeding. He should have stuck with Safeway he'd be living the good life.
My buddys friend was a manager of Safeway for 10 years he made over $70k a year. But he always wanted to be a cop, so at age 32 he quit and became a Tempe police offficer. We called him Potsy because he looked like the guy from Happy Days. His first week on the job he totalled his cruiser, was his fault. He ended up demoted to street walking in downtown Tempe. He then got divorced, and quit after only 1 year because the pay was so low he coudldn't keep his head above water.
He was a douche bag, not because he was a cop. He was always a douche and the type who never should be a cop he was a control freak, and wrecked his life after he got to experience being a cop wasn't as fun as he thought. I'm glad he quit, the very idea of him pulling me over, thats if he wasn't so stupid they'd let him drive a cop car just made me want to vomit if I got busted by Potsy for speeding. He should have stuck with Safeway he'd be living the good life.
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04-17-2008, 02:44 PM
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I hate to hear others having troubles with the law enforcement...I for one have had more positive interactions than negative and have been helped out many times by law enforcement...but then again I have met many that weren't stand up citizens(non law enforcement type).
04-17-2008, 03:30 PM
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Just like anything else, any other job, your going to only hear about the ****ty situations not the good ones.
You do a good job at work and hear crickets, screw up and you hear from everybody.
I have only had 1 bad experience with a cop, and guess what, i am pissed at him, not all cops.
Sure, think skin is what i advocate to everyone, but at the same time, people should act thier age and not like children blasting a whole group of people is just stupid.
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You do a good job at work and hear crickets, screw up and you hear from everybody.
I have only had 1 bad experience with a cop, and guess what, i am pissed at him, not all cops.
Sure, think skin is what i advocate to everyone, but at the same time, people should act thier age and not like children blasting a whole group of people is just stupid.
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04-17-2008, 03:36 PM
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Cops get a bad rap for having to enforce unpopular laws put into place by the ******** we elect into office. I've known an awful lot of them over the years, and honestly, the vast majority of the complaints come from people who knowingly broke the laws and then want to 'be given a break' and let off, as if they were some kind of VIP or something. It really, really gets old real fast. Do the crime, pay the fine and be done with it, and stop whining. Don't like cops? next time you need assistance, call a criminal. Good luck with that.
I must agree with the spirit of your comments, and agree also with the specific caution that disposing of the police exposes us to risks police presence mitigates.
However....I hope you are not missing the point that many laws "put into place by the ******** we elect into office" are subject to question, and are illegally and unjustly founded. They also often are unjustly and illegally administered. Are you saying we should simply lay down and allow our rights to be trampled by over zealous automatons without recourse to questioning the validity of the laws and procedures they are claiming as authority for their oppressive actions? I recall laws in this country not too long ago that were passed prohibiting blacks from attending schools in some sections of the country, or riding the bus. Those laws were enforced by police. Were the blacks to lay down and submit to this without "whining"? We have been blessed by having at our disposal a means to question and challenge abuse of authority and if necessary, to change laws we discover as being unjust. We also have a duty to question overzealous behaviour which is contrary to the maintenance of a productive society. You seem to think that a law once passed must be obeyed without question, no matter how poorly conceived or deliberately abused in its administration. The fact is many traffic laws are totally unscientifically founded, and illegally administered, despite the well meaning of the legislature when passed. What you are advocating is close to accepting tyranny, in my opinion, if I have understood your post correctly. America was conceived in response to such tyrannical attitudes. It is our duty, IMO, to insure we continue to hold such attitudes in contempt and challenge them. In so doing, we seek to change laws that are made to oppress and prevent the enforcement of them by overzealous power hungry individuals. If you call that "whining", I guess we should call the entire legal system a bunch of crybabies, and the civil rights leaders we have held in such high esteem revolutionary whackos. The remedies we have in place for protecting us against abuse of authority then should be abandoned and attorneys engaged in such pursuits should be put to work shining the boots of police officers. And the US Constitution should be copied onto rolls of toilet paper and distributed to all citizens, eh? Wrong.
I recall the day when Cesar Chavez' widow was attacked and beaten by a San Francisco police officer because he wanted her to stand in a certain place convenient to him during a peaceful demonstration. She was injured permamnently by this goon. Was she violating a law? Perhaps. Was she to lay down and not whine about his bullying which was shown for all the world to see on TV? He never even gave her a chance to do that before he administered what the legislature, according to you, gave him the "authority" to do by punching her in the stomach enough to cause internal injuries "where they wouldn't show. F*** that sir! Abuse of power is just that, and nothing authorized by any legislature. And abuse of power is abhored by our legislatures and the Constitution, which does authorize a system of checks and balances as a remedy for such abuses. If you call that whining, read Toyanbee to find out where we as a nation are headed. If you persist in calling it whining, what will you call your reaction when you awaken and discover one day that our right to question abuses of authority are no longer available? Baaaaing?? Like all the other sheeple?
FWIW, I've said it before and will again. Nothing in this post is not meant to condemn police officers as a group. But individual police officers make mistakes. They make mistakes in perception. They are trained to perform in ways that are not always legally acceptable, and that is unfortunate and unfair to us and to them. They are subject to their emotions, and their sincerely held zeal for performance. And they have families like everyone else, that they must support. But because of these characteristics, we should not condemn citizens for questioning the behaviour of the police. If the roles were reversed and you were a cop and the cops were you, you would expect the same standard of accountability. It is why we have an America. Yay USA !!!
04-17-2008, 04:00 PM
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Although I know a few cops that are in it for the wrong reasons, I'll be the first to admit that my experiences have all been very positive. I am often driving a car or bike in a manner most would consider trolling for tickets but the last 5 or 6 times I have been stopped resulted in a quick paperwork check and a polite verbal warning. When I'm at work, I don't tolerate people with pissy attitudes. I would imagine cops feel the same way. No big deal..
04-17-2008, 04:10 PM
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private lawyers get all the easy, paying gigs
04-17-2008, 05:18 PM
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Here is why
Military troops should not be US cops, not atleast for 10 years IMO. They should not intermix and not advance the militarization of police forces into SWAT team no knock raid teams thats incrementally taking over our socieity.
About 300,000 U.S. troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan suffer symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder or depression, but about half receive no care, an independent study said on Thursday.
The study by the RAND Corp. also estimated that another 320,000 troops have sustained a possible traumatic brain injury during deployment. But researchers could not say how many of those cases were serious or required treatment.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoo...ory?id=4674945
Sorry but no troops should be cops, see how one snapped at me just over some snarky comment, if I said that in Iraq I'd probably be dead. They need to learn to come back home and intergrate back into society. Not go from running a checkpoint in Iraq to running one in Tennesse in the scope of a year.
Military troops should not be US cops, not atleast for 10 years IMO. They should not intermix and not advance the militarization of police forces into SWAT team no knock raid teams thats incrementally taking over our socieity.
About 300,000 U.S. troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan suffer symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder or depression, but about half receive no care, an independent study said on Thursday.
The study by the RAND Corp. also estimated that another 320,000 troops have sustained a possible traumatic brain injury during deployment. But researchers could not say how many of those cases were serious or required treatment.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoo...ory?id=4674945
Sorry but no troops should be cops, see how one snapped at me just over some snarky comment, if I said that in Iraq I'd probably be dead. They need to learn to come back home and intergrate back into society. Not go from running a checkpoint in Iraq to running one in Tennesse in the scope of a year.
