bcdavis

The plastic cover with factory emblem is a good way to hide that stuff from the cops. Or black wrinkle finish, etc. Anything polished, or painted red, is going to catch their eye... The main thing is that most police don't know what's stock on a 928. There are cars that come from the factory with superchargers and turbos. So as long as it looks stock, you just have to claim that is the way it comes from the factory. That will work 90% of the time. Even with smog checks, they are looking to see if things that are listed as required for your model year, are indeed present. So they look for cats, EGR, crankcase ventilation, charcoal canister, etc. If you can point out all the stock smog components, they aren't going to worry about the extra stuff, as long as it looks stock, and as long as the car passes the test.

Larry928GTS

I think I should invent a small cat to be inserted into the rectum, to reduce greenhouse gasses from flatulence, and sell the idea to those running things in California. Maybe call them "*** cats" or something like that. They'd make them mandatory for everyone, and I'd be rich. I'm sure they'd probably have random checks to make sure everyone was complying and had those in place too.

crackerfeet

Larry 928GTS, your market is going to be huge, think about all of the flatulent livestock and wildlife. They could use 503,00 dollars from gas tax to buy and insert those also. Maybe you could make an oral model for politicians, maybe not, since they are always blowing it up our a$$, you would have to make a cat that works in both directions.

rjm65

Seeing as I'm 42 years old, i.e., born before 1975, I would be exempt from the *** cat.

Lizard928

Larry and Michael, that is the funniest thing I have read in a VERY VERY long time.

Larry928GTS

I was thinking maybe a high environmental impact tax on beans.

Sorry if I'm starting to make some of you Californians kind of nervous, but we have to make some sacrifices, otherwise terrorists will kill the whales by feeding them our children.

hacker-pschorr

Ok Larry, why are you thinking about sticking things in my ***????
If you ever make it to Green Bay, I'm not sure the llama out back will accept your company.....


....Andrew is 50/50 at best.

aggravation

Exactly, fat dumb and semi-happy, that's how the political hacks like us to be.
I enjoy knowing my car is outlawed there, it's one of the benchmarks for successfully improving ones ride!

Red UFO

Another guy named Larry talking about sticking things in the ***.



Sounds like government work to me.

ew928

How many of those ULEV (Ultra Low Emissions) Hummers (Hummahs) does your Governator have? I did hear he got a Prenus to keep the Green people happy.


I find it humorous that the regulation authority is named after an old school air/fuel control device. Everyone knows Electronic Fuel Injection runs a lot cleaner. Especially on startup cycle.


Can Ahhhnold put a Cat on the end of his Cigars.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Ah ...."I never knew that enhancing your engine was illegal in CA" Actually it is illegal EVERYWHERE in the U S on ANY car newer than about 1968 EPA Clean Air Act comes under tampering with pollution control devices. The fine for an individual is $2,500 the fine for a business enterprise is $25,000 per violation each and every car ! ...rarely enforced except against businesses which openly and as a routine business practice violate the laws. The fact that state laws do not call for smog inspections simply means the federal laws are not as likely to be enforced. Even in California they are proposing catching the 1968-1976 vehicles that are "modified" from the origional smog equipment using the roadside checks to spot gross polluters. Being exempt from the two year smog checks NEVER meant , " You are free to do what ever you like " ! And yes SEMA has lobbied long and hard over these topics.

ShawnSmith

Roadside checks for genuine gross polluters seems like the most practical of the tactics discussed here. We can make 928's run very clean, and when we do so, we're not screwing the environment, and would not be pestered by a gross polluter highway scanner. I like it!

Jim bailey - 928 International

Taken from the Megasquirt front page. Their disclaimers in an attempt to avoid liability. "MegaSquirt® experimental electronic fuel injection controllers are intended for educational and research use on off-highway or non-pollution controlled vehicles only. They are not intended as a replacement controller for any emissions controlled vehicle that will ever be operated on public roads.

No Tampering

WARNING: In the U.S.A. or Canada, federal law makes it illegal for ANYONE to tamper with, disconnect, remove or otherwise render inoperative ANY automotive emissions related control device. In general, the entire fuel system and all its individual components (including the EFI ECU) are considered 'emissions related control devices'. The penalties for tampering can be substantial. A violation may make you liable for a fine of $2,500 or even more!

"Tampering" means replacing or disabling any emissions related components (i.e. any components that would, or could, affect any vehicle emissions) with an unapproved replacement part. It originally applied primarily to 'professional mechanics' operating from licensed repair facilities.

Revisions to the U.S. Clean Air Act in 1990 (40 CFR Title 2, Part A, Section 203) further broadened the definition of emissions tampering to include virtually ANY type of engine or exhaust system modification, performed by anyone, that alters, or might alter, what comes out the tail pipe. That means any nonstock aftermarket part that is installed on your engine must be EPA-approved and emissions legal (except on the exempt vehicles noted below) if you will be driving on public roads. Canadian federal clean air laws are very similar.

However, federal anti-tampering law does not apply to race cars that are not operated on the street, other full-time off-road vehicles, show cars that are not street driven, or vehicles not factory equipped with emission controls (most 1967 and earlier vehicles). So that exempts all antique cars, and many classic cars and muscle cars.

Aftermarket parts manufacturers who make non-stock performance parts for engines, such as the fuel, ignition or exhaust systems must apply for special certification (an "exemption order" - E.O.) for any parts they want to sell as being emissions legal. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) has been the leading American government body in this respect, so most submit their proposals to CARB to obtain exemptions. Any non-OEM electronic fuel injection controller (such as MegaSquirt®) would be an unapproved replacement part unless it has been granted an exemption.

MegaSquirt® EFI controllers DO NOT have exemption orders in any jurisdiction, and thus are NOT emissions legal for any on-road application of pollution controlled vehicles anywhere in North America (nor any other jurisdiction that has similar legal requirements).

Similar regulations have been, or soon will be, enacted in other parts of the world, including Europe, Japan, and other regions. Check the laws in your jurisdiction to determine if using MegaSquirt is legal for your application.

Consequences

Tampering with a vehicle's emission components makes you liable for a federal fine. In addition, if you live in a region that has, or may have in the future, an automobile emissions testing program, you may have difficulty registering, selling, or trading-in any vehicle that has been tampered. Depending on the degree of tampering, a vehicle can fail any visual emission testing inspection (even if the vehicle meets the tail pipe emissions specifications) and the owner can incur potentially high repair costs in order to pass inspection (generally returning the vehicle's emission components to 'as new' condition). In most such programs, vehicles are usually required to pass inspection before they are registered (though there may be waivers granted, these often won't apply to deliberately tampered vehicles). ......"

That is probably enough about what the law actually is ....

Joe Dyer

It's the responsibility of the seller to obtain the smog certificate before selling the car.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Joe is of course correct about the requirement to have a smog certificate if you sell a car in California. In fact the buyer if they have been sold a car with no certificate which fails and they cannot register it can take it to a dealer and get it fixed and go after the seller for the TOTAL cost of the repair. The laws are very clear about that and designed to protect a buyer from getting stuck with an undrivable car. Yet Craigs list has many cars being offered which for one reason or another will not pass some adds will mention "engine light on" which is a kiss of death automatic FAIL.... some will proudly announce "have current smog certificate" as if that were special it is REQUIRED !!