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Old 03-14-2008, 08:48 PM
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Question Intake Ready for Powder Coat

Just got my intake and misc. parts back today from glass bead blasting and are ready for powder coating.



Does anyone have a pic. of the translucent color "chrome smoke". I am thinking using this color. Carl at 928 motorsports has it listed on his web site but its hard to really see it.
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Wow, it looks so good the way it is I would just put clear on it
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You can get some metallic filler to fix the pits in the valve covers that is powder coatable.
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I think clear would be very cool and classy .
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I recently had the intake set-up and cam covers off my '86.5 powder coated in the 'cast aluminum' color as I wanted it to be close to the original color coat. My intake and cam covers look like your uncoated parts.

Is your intake aluminum or magnesium? The shop that did my intake would not blast magnesium parts with glass bead media as glass particles would end up imbedded in the mag and compromise paint adhesion.

I can post pictures tomorrow of my intake/cam covers if you're interested in seeing what the 'cast aluminum" color looks like.

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they made magnesium intakes??
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
they made magnesium intakes??
aluminum/magnesium alloy
Old 03-14-2008, 09:15 PM
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the intake is aluminum. I sure does look the same as the covers. Yes, pls. post pic's if you can.

Clear is a good idea, let me think that one over.
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Originally Posted by David L. Lutz
Adam
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the intake is aluminum. I sure does look the same as the covers. Yes, pls. post pic's if you can.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/413515-s4-intake-and-cam-cover-materials.html
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The shop said my '86.5 intake runners, air boxes and cam covers were all magnesium. Once blasted with aluminum oxide (no glass bead) remove the factory color coat, the base metal color of the parts was a light to medium gray.

They also filled in the casting pits with a product called "lab metal" before the powder coat went on.

The shop that did the work (located in central NJ) has refinished many Porsche parts - intakes, engine components, chassis parts, brake calipers, etc. I saw their ad in Panorama and gave them a try - I was very pleased with the results.

Mike (njsharkfan) will be over tomorrow morning. We'll take pictures of the finished parts and post them.

Adam
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Originally Posted by Adam G.
I recently had the intake set-up and cam covers off my '86.5 powder coated in the 'cast aluminum' color as I wanted it to be close to the original color coat. My intake and cam covers look like your uncoated parts.

Is your intake aluminum or magnesium? The shop that did my intake would not blast magnesium parts with glass bead media as glass particles would end up imbedded in the mag and compromise paint adhesion.

I can post pictures tomorrow of my intake/cam covers if you're interested in seeing what the 'cast aluminum" color looks like.

Adam
Originally Posted by David L. Lutz
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think the intake is aluminum. I sure does look the same as the covers. Yes, pls. post pic's if you can.

Clear is a good idea, let me think that one over.
After a second closer look, I would say my intake is magnesium. It for sure is not the same metal as the other parts in the pics. The color looked the same from a distance, but the texture and metal composition looks quite different.
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Here's what Adam was talking about:

(they came out really nice, although you could see some imperfections from the casting if you look really close). As mentioned, for a showcar you might want to use high temp filler to smooth it out, but otherwise it looks just fine the way it is.










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Mike,
Thanks for the post. Nice color, for sure in the range I am looking for.
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it seems to me that most cast alloy parts are a Magnesium alloy. Such as the intake and cam covers and things like the upper hatch lock that always cracks. They are a Magnesium alloy, what exactly is anyone's guess, but dont break or crack them, you cant weld them and put any strength back into them as its really seems to be partly made up of dirt.

Because of the porous nature of these castings you cant just simply clear coat them. Also i would bet that the pictures in the first post which look silver are in reality much more grey than "aluminum" colored. You need some type of finish on there, something thick, you cant polish them because they will never be smooth, its too rough a compound for that.

As an alternative to powder coating you can use just regular paint. I painted mine over 2 years ago and the DFW guys can tell you first hand how well its held up. Powder coating isnt the be all end all for surface coatings. Paint's day hasnt come yet, its still much easier to work with and much much cheaper because you can do it yourself with excellent results.
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Originally Posted by RyanPerrella
it seems to me that most cast alloy parts are a Magnesium alloy. Such as the intake and cam covers and things like the upper hatch lock that always cracks. They are a Magnesium alloy, what exactly is anyone's guess, but dont break or crack them, you cant weld them and put any strength back into them as its really seems to be partly made up of dirt.

Because of the porous nature of these castings you cant just simply clear coat them. Also i would bet that the pictures in the first post which look silver are in reality much more grey than "aluminum" colored. You need some type of finish on there, something thick, you cant polish them because they will never be smooth, its too rough a compound for that.

As an alternative to powder coating you can use just regular paint. I painted mine over 2 years ago and the DFW guys can tell you first hand how well its held up. Powder coating isnt the be all end all for surface coatings. Paint's day hasnt come yet, its still much easier to work with and much much cheaper because you can do it yourself with excellent results.
Ryan,

That's my plan too. I'm hoping to get a shop to bake the parts and blast them for me, but instead of paying (and waiting) for the powdercoat, I'll just use some high build primer if I can find a high temp one, and then paint them myself.

It's a shame you can't see the cam covers on these cars with the air tubes on them, but we all know they're there and they need to be taken care of. The intake parts are all right up there and they should SHINE!


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