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Old 03-19-2008 | 11:09 PM
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I went to NAPA to get the Weatherhead hydraulic line and all they had was the hydraulic hose that they use to crimp hydraulic lines with. This hose has the metal strands in it. It is very stiff. This is what they use for the high pressure stuff.

Is this what you used or did you just use plain rubber fuel line? I asked them if they had a different kind of hose in Weatherhead and this was the only thing they carried. What is printed on your hose? Is there a spec or something?
Hello Mike,
The printing on the hose is "Weatherhead". I can take a picture later (probably Friday) and post if it will help. This hose came recommended from a couple of parts houses in town - they say "go to NAPA and get some Weatherhead". It's rated for hydraulic fluids and won't deteriorate. The hose is on the low pressure side so high pressure rating is not that important. Whatever hose you go with, it just needs to be resistant to PS fluid and not seep/deteriorate prematurely. THANKS for the question.
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Dwayne, as always you do do good work.
If what ever you do for a living does not work out for you, you can make a living turning wrenches.

A couple of things.
The first is, do you have a source for the original type bands, the one you had to cut off?
The second thing is, how about a description of your camera stuff?
IF that is not a
DSLR with a macro lens, it is very good.

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Old 03-20-2008 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by blown 87
Dwayne, as always you do do good work.
If what ever you do for a living does not work out for you, you can make a living turning wrenches.

A couple of things.
The first is, do you have a source for the original type bands, the one you had to cut off?
The second thing is, how about a description of your camera stuff?
IF that is not a
DSLR with a macro lens, it is very good.

Greg Nettles
Good question on the camera, yeah what do you use?
Old 03-20-2008 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blown 87
Dwayne, as always you do do good work........

Heh heh heh, he said do do.
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Dwayne,
The hose I got has Weatherhead printed on it, but it is STIFF. This hose is what that NAPA uses for high pressure stuff, so it is lined with metal strands. To cut it I will have to use a hacksaw, or cut-off saw. That is what it looks like they used when I bought it. I am not sure if there are different grades on Weatherhead. The NAPA guy told me that is the only Weatherhead brand he knew of. From you pics, it just looks like you used something more like a regular hose that is not metal-lined and could be cut with a pair of wire cutters. Maybe not...

I am fine with using this hose I have, but I am going to have to tighen the crap out of the hose craps to get this hose to deform enough around the reservoir and line to get it to seal.
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Heh heh heh, he said do do.
Happens sometimes when your PUI.
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Dwayne,
The hose I got has Weatherhead printed on it, but it is STIFF. This hose is what that NAPA uses for high pressure stuff, so it is lined with metal strands. To cut it I will have to use a hacksaw, or cut-off saw. That is what it looks like they used when I bought it. I am not sure if there are different grades on Weatherhead. The NAPA guy told me that is the only Weatherhead brand he knew of. From you pics, it just looks like you used something more like a regular hose that is not metal-lined and could be cut with a pair of wire cutters. Maybe not...

I am fine with using this hose I have, but I am going to have to tighen the crap out of the hose craps to get this hose to deform enough around the reservoir and line to get it to seal.

I am doing this repair now and am following everything as closely as possible to Dwayne's excellent write up. The hose I got from NAPA says Weatherhead on it and is rated at 350 PSI. It feels stiff but is still a fiber reinforced rubber hose and can be cut with a blade. When I asked about getting the hose the NAPA guy asked me how much pressure it needed to withstand as they also had higher rated hose. I sounds like you got the higher rated hose.

Also, a big thanks to Dwayne for this write up. The pictures are awesome, and the information is priceless.
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how much pressure? Anyone else care to guess? I say its what 20-40psi? ITS LOW PRESSURE!

If it were any higher you couldn't hold it on with a simple worm clamp. I don't even want to know what you guys spent on that hose.
Old 03-21-2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by byrdman454
Dwayne,
The hose I got has Weatherhead printed on it, but it is STIFF. This hose is what that NAPA uses for high pressure stuff, so it is lined with metal strands. To cut it I will have to use a hacksaw, or cut-off saw. That is what it looks like they used when I bought it. I am not sure if there are different grades on Weatherhead. The NAPA guy told me that is the only Weatherhead brand he knew of. From you pics, it just looks like you used something more like a regular hose that is not metal-lined and could be cut with a pair of wire cutters. Maybe not...

I am fine with using this hose I have, but I am going to have to tighen the crap out of the hose craps to get this hose to deform enough around the reservoir and line to get it to seal.
Mike,
The Weatherhead I got didn't have the metal reinforced strands - just fiber reinforced. It is stiffer than regular heater-type hose but not as stiff as the metal reinforced stuff. There may be other types of Weatherhead but I'm not aware of what they are. Here's a picture of what I get at my NAPA with the labeling.....
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If they don't have this type of Weatherhead, you might ask them if they have transmission/PS fluid compatible hose (1/2"). Perhaps they use a different supplier for this type of hose. I agree that it would be difficult to get a good clamping force with the metal stuff. If you can't find this type of hose at your NAPA, you might try another parts house. I've also had good luck with hoses, metric bolts, clamps, etc. from CarQuest. Hope this helps.
Old 03-21-2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blown 87
Dwayne, as always you do do good work.
If what ever you do for a living does not work out for you, you can make a living turning wrenches.

A couple of things.
The first is, do you have a source for the original type bands, the one you had to cut off?
The second thing is, how about a description of your camera stuff?
IF that is not a
DSLR with a macro lens, it is very good.

Greg Nettles
Hello Greg,
Sorry it's taken so long to get back...been hectic at work and just got back from travel last night.....I'm off today and enjoying my favorite weekend morning activity....catching up on RENNLIST!!

The band on the PS hose I had to dremel off was factory pressed on, of course. I didn't try to find another source for the original pressed on band. So I went with a heavy duty worm type clamp. I got the worm clamp at a local imported auto mechanic shop - it was beefier than what I could find at the local parts houses (e.g., Kragen, NAPA). If a person wanted to get a press on fitting, I've used Hose-Man in the past to re-build/custom build hydraulic type hoses in the past - and they've been great! They probably have a variety of pressed on bands they use and may be able to help. However, I just take the old hose/fittings in to them and they do the rest.

As far as the camera....it's an Olypus Camedia C-4000 digital camera (It's probably 5 years old). It's 4MP with a 3X optical zoom. However, I take most of the picutures at wide angle. It uses a SmartMedia (128MB is what I have in it now) and operates on 4 "AA" batteries. I take all my pictures at the HQ setting (2288 X 1712 pixels). This gets me about 130 pictures on the 128MB card and each pictures is about 1MB in size when loaded on my computer. Then I "dumb" the pictures down to a resolution that is uploadable on the list. Here's a picture of the camera and the cover page of the manual.....
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I inherited this camera from my wife when she wanted a "mega Zoom" camera. So she got the nice one and I get to abuse this one on the dirty jobs.
Old 03-21-2008 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanPerrella
how much pressure? Anyone else care to guess? I say its what 20-40psi? ITS LOW PRESSURE!

If it were any higher you couldn't hold it on with a simple worm clamp. I don't even want to know what you guys spent on that hose.
RyanPerrella is right on! The 350 PSI Weatherhead hose I used is WAY overkill - pressure-wise. The reason I ended up with it is because some of the local parts guys agreed it was PS fluid/transmission/hydraulic fluid compatible and better than what they had to offer.
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Originally Posted by Charley B
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Of course I DO DO good work every chance I get!
Old 03-21-2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwayne
RyanPerrella is right on! The 350 PSI Weatherhead hose I used is WAY overkill - pressure-wise. The reason I ended up with it is because some of the local parts guys agreed it was PS fluid/transmission/hydraulic fluid compatible and better than what they had to offer.
The Wúrth hose is pretty good also.
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Dwayne:

Great writeup! I just replaced the pressure side hose and found I still have my leak. Looking at the return hose as it goes down the engine compartment side, I can see the hose weeping. So it's back going back up on jackstands and I'll get some hose as suggested and fix later this week. Already have a Dremel!!

Thanks a bunch.


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