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Old 11-30-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default How do you use an engine support bar on an '84 engine?

I'm planning to change the MMs soon. And in my never ending quest to acquire more tools, I like the idea of using a tool such as this one to suppor the engine:

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The problem is I don't seem to have a centered factory lift point (like the later engines). Instead, I have these eye hooks (one on passenger side front and one on driver side rear). I used these to extract the engine when I took it out this summer.

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If I get the engine supprt bar and use it on the front (passenger side) eye hook to lift the engine, seems like I'd only be lifting one side. If I position the bar over the middle of the engine (half way between the front and rear eye hooks) the bar rests in an area of the fender lip that doesn't have much support and the suport bar wouldn't be directly over the lift point either which doesn't seem good either.
So my question is, has anyone used and engine support bar such as the one pictured to support their '84 engine. If so, what did you attach the chains to??
Old 11-30-2007, 05:43 PM
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I did this year, I mounted the bar sort of diagonally so the bar was more or less over both hooks. I did not really lift the motor, I just used the bar to hold it while I dropped the cross member.

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I used a lift bar with a single lift point in the center. First I removed the belt driven fan, then bolted a lifting eye in it's place fabricated from 3/8" plate. I have photos somewhere if you are interested.

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Old 11-30-2007, 06:31 PM
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Look at post #39 on this thread. https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/308715-motor-mount-and-pan-gasket-party-resolution.html

I made 2 from 4x4's. 1 for the front, one for the back. Worked great!
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Marton, Rick, Andrew,
Thank you all for the great ideas. Any one of them would work for what I want to do (support the engine from above) -- I just couldn't visualize it. THANKS!

I'm leaning towards Andrew's method. I wasn't thinking 2-dimensionally - 2 support bars (or 4X4s) is a simple solution and provides redundancy/added safety. Cool! -- THANKS!
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you will find that the width is different at the front of the engine compartment compared to the back , I did it this way,....... remove the alt and power steering pump, with the car on jackstands slightly jack up the motor measure from the ground to the bottom of the alt mount and the ground to boittom of the AC mount cut a 2x4 for each side then , position the boards you can then remove the crossmemberand the jack to remove the oil pan and motormounts , it might be easier to remove the oil filter first and the side anchor bolts before trying to support the engine with the boards, the ideal way though is to use the cherry picker i dont like the idea of resting a support on the inside fender lips they are after all thin aluminum
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When I pulled the motor on my '81 I used an engine bar as shown. I found however you need to have another support on the driver side front or the motor will tilt that way making removal far more difficult. Since not much is needed I used wire for one of our old ground pumps (it is very thick) I wrapped around bar and a self made lift hook(4 times) bolted on driver side. This also made reinstall much easier.
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MrMerlin,
So as not to confuse people.
The support sits on the frame of the car and not the fender.
This is the way the WSM tells you to do it and is far safer than supporting the engine from underneath and also gives a lot of extra room to work.
Just FYI 8>).

On later cars from 85 IIRC there is a support bracket on the front of the WP exactly for this purpose.
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I have used that tool a couple times now. I also run it diagonally. I pull the hood off to get it all the way back on the driver's side.



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