Stereo Installation in an Old Bugger.
05-27-2003, 11:49 AM
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Stereo Installation in an Old Bugger.
Hi All
Got some questions.
Im doing a simple stereo install in my old bugger and i'm in the process of obtaining all the gear. One of the things i would like to install is a 6.5" 100w powered bazooka tube in the hatch behind the passenger seat. I would prefer this route to installing amps and subs, as i would like to keep the butchery to a minimum or not a all. I would like to prewire everything so i only have to take the interior apart only once.
1. How much of a PIA are these to put in. Did you put in facing reaward or toward the qpanel.
2. Did you screw the mounts directly to the floor of the hatch.
3. Was the gas tank an issue doing this.
4. Did you also install the remote switch. I would in a perfect world like to wire the now usless fader **** as some type of level control for the bass tube. I noticed that the remote switch has two ***** on it so this may be impractical.
5. I plan to replace all the existing factory speaker wires with new 14 or 16 ga wire and wire in a new snap connector. I need to do this to elimnate the fader and the common ground situation that exists with the original factory speakers. Should i go the Porsche dealer to get the factory snap connector or would it be to weird to just go to the Ford dealer down the street and buy the Ford factory snap connector? It would make future head unit upgrades (i'd like to do 5.1 DVD audio in the future) alot simpler to have a factory snap connector installed. Since my old bugger never had one, im thinking it doenst matter if used a modern Porsche one or any other domestic connector.
Has anyone else BTDT?
Got some questions.
Im doing a simple stereo install in my old bugger and i'm in the process of obtaining all the gear. One of the things i would like to install is a 6.5" 100w powered bazooka tube in the hatch behind the passenger seat. I would prefer this route to installing amps and subs, as i would like to keep the butchery to a minimum or not a all. I would like to prewire everything so i only have to take the interior apart only once.
1. How much of a PIA are these to put in. Did you put in facing reaward or toward the qpanel.
2. Did you screw the mounts directly to the floor of the hatch.
3. Was the gas tank an issue doing this.
4. Did you also install the remote switch. I would in a perfect world like to wire the now usless fader **** as some type of level control for the bass tube. I noticed that the remote switch has two ***** on it so this may be impractical.
5. I plan to replace all the existing factory speaker wires with new 14 or 16 ga wire and wire in a new snap connector. I need to do this to elimnate the fader and the common ground situation that exists with the original factory speakers. Should i go the Porsche dealer to get the factory snap connector or would it be to weird to just go to the Ford dealer down the street and buy the Ford factory snap connector? It would make future head unit upgrades (i'd like to do 5.1 DVD audio in the future) alot simpler to have a factory snap connector installed. Since my old bugger never had one, im thinking it doenst matter if used a modern Porsche one or any other domestic connector.
Has anyone else BTDT?
05-27-2003, 01:57 PM
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Ive done it john...best thing ive doen for the sound of my car!
1) mine was simple, it faces aft twards the rear.
2)I dont have mine HARD mounted yet, its just held down by a couple of bungee cords stretched from tie down to tie down point. It works but i would like something more cosmetically pleasing. I didnt want to tap and drill into the sheetmetal to mount it...this would also mean poking a hole through my nice new trunk mat. Ive thought about building a shallow false floor in the trunk area out of 1/4 board..cut to fit. This way the trunk mat would fit cleaner also and wouldnt poke up or require cuttouts for the tie down brackets.
3)N/A
4) i installed the remot fader ****...i found that some CDs put out different types/levels of base..the remote **** allowed me to tune each disc differently. There is also a diference in Bass sound form Radio to CD i found. I mounted the **** down by the parking break lever/trunk release . I did most of the work when my interior was out, so routing the wires wasnt a problem.
5)Snap conenctor..i dunno what that is
I guess it shows how much i really know about stereo stuff.
The instuctions with the tube were pretty straight forward. IF i recall you just tap into one of the rear speakers and the tube takes care of the rest electronically, take the bass signal and doing its thing...its all PFM to me!
So far YES-"Owner of a Lonely Heart" is one of my favs to crank up. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
BTW..i got mine on EBAY for 100bucks and change.
1) mine was simple, it faces aft twards the rear.
2)I dont have mine HARD mounted yet, its just held down by a couple of bungee cords stretched from tie down to tie down point. It works but i would like something more cosmetically pleasing. I didnt want to tap and drill into the sheetmetal to mount it...this would also mean poking a hole through my nice new trunk mat. Ive thought about building a shallow false floor in the trunk area out of 1/4 board..cut to fit. This way the trunk mat would fit cleaner also and wouldnt poke up or require cuttouts for the tie down brackets.
3)N/A
4) i installed the remot fader ****...i found that some CDs put out different types/levels of base..the remote **** allowed me to tune each disc differently. There is also a diference in Bass sound form Radio to CD i found. I mounted the **** down by the parking break lever/trunk release . I did most of the work when my interior was out, so routing the wires wasnt a problem.
5)Snap conenctor..i dunno what that is
I guess it shows how much i really know about stereo stuff.The instuctions with the tube were pretty straight forward. IF i recall you just tap into one of the rear speakers and the tube takes care of the rest electronically, take the bass signal and doing its thing...its all PFM to me!
So far YES-"Owner of a Lonely Heart" is one of my favs to crank up. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
BTW..i got mine on EBAY for 100bucks and change.
05-27-2003, 04:22 PM
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While I do like the idea of the Bazooka and have owned several in the past, nothing IMO beats the quality of sound of a good woofer in a sealed enclosure. You might want to check out some of the high end car stereo places near you or even online. They now sell small pre-made woofer enclosures complete with amp mounting space, etc.
So you just buy the enclosure, add a good woofer, and amp to it, and you now have a good
alternative to the Bazooka. Also the 928 is a fairly big hatch with lots of sound deading carpet, insulation, etc. I doubt if a single 6.5 will give you what you want. Back in '93 I needed two 6.5's in the back of my Nissan 240 to get something near "decent" bass, but a single 8" woofer in a small sealed enclosure and small
100w amp was a vast improvement.
So you just buy the enclosure, add a good woofer, and amp to it, and you now have a good
alternative to the Bazooka. Also the 928 is a fairly big hatch with lots of sound deading carpet, insulation, etc. I doubt if a single 6.5 will give you what you want. Back in '93 I needed two 6.5's in the back of my Nissan 240 to get something near "decent" bass, but a single 8" woofer in a small sealed enclosure and small
100w amp was a vast improvement.
05-27-2003, 04:38 PM
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While I do like the idea of the Bazooka and have owned several in the past, nothing IMO beats the quality of sound of a good woofer in a sealed enclosure. You might want to check out some of the high end car stereo places near you or even online. They now sell small pre-made woofer enclosures complete with amp mounting space, etc.
So you just buy the enclosure, add a good woofer, and amp to it, and you now have a good
alternative to the Bazooka. Also the 928 is a fairly big hatch with lots of sound deading carpet, insulation, etc. I doubt if a single 6.5 will give you what you want. Back in '93 I needed two 6.5's in the back of my Nissan 240 to get something near "decent" bass, but a single 8" woofer in a small sealed enclosure and small
100w amp was a vast improvement.
So you just buy the enclosure, add a good woofer, and amp to it, and you now have a good
alternative to the Bazooka. Also the 928 is a fairly big hatch with lots of sound deading carpet, insulation, etc. I doubt if a single 6.5 will give you what you want. Back in '93 I needed two 6.5's in the back of my Nissan 240 to get something near "decent" bass, but a single 8" woofer in a small sealed enclosure and small
100w amp was a vast improvement.
05-27-2003, 04:44 PM
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I thought about rigging something to enclose a 100w +/- Blau class D amp in the rear glovebox and mount (2) 6 1/2 subs in the qpanels where the factory put the woofers in the S and later model 928s. Unfortunatley that means cutting up my interior. If i did do that, what that would sound be like with subs mounted between the front and rear speakers and pointing at the seat backs.
To me that would be the best approach and the system would be almost hidden.
My only concerns are the depths i have to work with behind the panel and actually cutting holes in a perfectly good interior panel.
To me that would be the best approach and the system would be almost hidden.
My only concerns are the depths i have to work with behind the panel and actually cutting holes in a perfectly good interior panel.
05-27-2003, 04:51 PM
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5. If you're referring to the connector that attaches to the back of the head unit, then the unit will probably come with its own, with a good length of wire trailing out to crimp on to the car's wiring. There are probably a few "standards" out there, but connectors vary by manufacterer.
05-27-2003, 05:48 PM
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Close. I mean the connector thats comes with the car from the factory. The one they make and sell the adaptors by car mfg. for to attach those wires that come with the head unit. My goal is to bring all the wires in the car to one connection point so that in the future I can upgrade or trouble shoot the head unit by only buying the right adaptor for the units harness.
BTW - Sony and Aiwa use the same connector to the back of their head units.
BTW - Sony and Aiwa use the same connector to the back of their head units.
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05-27-2003, 05:58 PM
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Fitting a quality sub in the large speaker area in the back quarters would be a challenge. The only decent 6" woofers that I have seen are JLs, and they are a STOUT chunk of speaker. I think I have seen someone put them there, but yes they had to do some custom cutting/fitting. The sound would not be a problem though.
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John K.
I recently had a sound system installed. I placed speakers in the factory cut-outs, but created a four inch raised rear deck to enclose a 10" sub, three amps, three capacitors, two crossover,and a cd changer. If you want to take a look at it, I am close to you. Just let me know.
I recently had a sound system installed. I placed speakers in the factory cut-outs, but created a four inch raised rear deck to enclose a 10" sub, three amps, three capacitors, two crossover,and a cd changer. If you want to take a look at it, I am close to you. Just let me know.
05-28-2003, 02:04 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by John Krawczyk:
<strong>Hi All
5. I plan to replace all the existing factory speaker wires with new 14 or 16 ga wire and wire in a new snap connector. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Yo dog, go with the 16 ga. Go to <a href="http://www.caraudioexpert.com" target="_blank">www.caraudioexpert.com</a> . I bought 500 feet of 16ga speaker wire for $19.95. You should be set then.
<strong>Hi All
5. I plan to replace all the existing factory speaker wires with new 14 or 16 ga wire and wire in a new snap connector. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Yo dog, go with the 16 ga. Go to <a href="http://www.caraudioexpert.com" target="_blank">www.caraudioexpert.com</a> . I bought 500 feet of 16ga speaker wire for $19.95. You should be set then.
