Marine Blue

Edit: Not sure why this ended up posting first......

Nice Carl, looking organized and I bet you breezed through it. Looking forward to getting mine done along with a new rack and tie rods. I heard that you picked up a buffer, have you had a chance to play with it yet?

We need to plan a GTG and drive before winter arrives, maybe a drive to the Cape after the vacation season has eneded followed by a BBQ?

Ispeed

Time to do mm/pg on my friend Chris' '90 GT, so we called Roger and he supplied us with anchor mounts and a silicone gasket. 928's -R- US!!!
We borrowed an engine lift brace from another 928er (Vince Ellero) and used Rick3452's lift to do the job. Rick is a great friend and we owe him thanks.
We connected the lift to the single lift loop on the front of the engine and disconnected one hood strut so that the hood would stay down and not hit the ceiling there. A piece of cardboard protected the hood pad and we were ready to go under. After the initial lifting of the weight of the engine we had to readjust the brace to lift the engine a little higher to allow the cross brace to re-mount better. This is later during reassembly.
We re used the pan screws with red loctite after a thorough cleaning, and had no broken bolts or other unforseen problems. This was my 3rd mm/pg job, so I had the drill down. I wanted Chris to see and do as much as possible so that he could experience the other side of ownership: the joy of wrenching. I think he had a good time helping me and did some bonding with his shark.

Total time: one long-a$$ day and 8.5 hours of wrench time.

Ispeed

I have learned to loosen the alternator to get more access at the front of the pan for the hard to get screws. Of course the starter comes down also, and the small bracket holding the hard lines to the rack removed to allow the rack to drop a little more for better room to manouver.

To drop the lower control arms, we made hash marks with a sharpie on the eccentric adjusters so that the alignment wouldn't change.

We used Mobil 1 15w50.

p.s. the pic of the old gasket show that it was not too old and compressed as many I have seen, and the motor mounts were collapsed but not metal to metal. The car has only 26K miles. Many go 126K before getting mm/pg by an enthusiast owner.

Rick3452

looks like I missed a fun day (thank God) Carl you are the man.....

Ispeed

Thanks Rick, the job was like a re-run of the same job on my '87. A little easier, and was nice to have help on some of the hard to reach cross member bolts.

Any time you need me to do anything on yours, just ask. Some new Bilsteins perhaps?
Remember the SITM tristies?

Mrmerlin

Thats one clean shark, glad your keeping it in top condition, nice writeup and great pictures

Marine Blue

Just out of curiousity, how bad were the motor mounts on Chris's GT? Any side by side pics of the MM?

Ispeed

Afshin: They were collapsed, but far from the worst I have seen. They were about 1" shorter than the new Anchor mm's.

Bill Ball

Nice job! However, I wonder why you removed the eccentrics on the lower control arms. I just undid the mounting bolts to the body and left the arm attached to the spindle and swung it out of the way. Either way, I think the alignment can be affected because the mounting bolts do not precisely locate the arm on the body. Also, even though the tie rods are not touched, I've seen changes in toe from removing and reinstalling the lower A-arm bolts.

Ispeed

Right Bill, there is some play in the eccentrics. He is still in need of a perfect alignment as we all are out here in this area.
At some point I will have to get set up to do a proper diy alignment as per Capt. Earl.

Bill Ball

Just to be clear, it's not necessrily an issue with the eccentrics. Even if they are left intact, the alignment can be affected by the simple act of unbolting, lowering, and reinstalling the A-arm to the body.

SMTCapeCod

Larz-Anderson? Keep me posted on any Cape runs..

This job looms in my future if I keep on keepin' on with the Euro...8.5 start to finish sounds like a real efficient operation-- nice to have such a clean car and a lift & other supporting tools on hand, I expect! Thanks for the pics and notes, I'm sure they'll come in handy for many of us.

Ispeed

Hey, I am no pioneer. There are a few sites that have the mm/pg job and many other biggies all laid out with some key pics. Pirtle, Nichols, George Suennen, and some others are great to help us break the ice in new territory under the 928.
Definitely helps to have done a job several times. I just did new springs on my buddy's 85 euro in 6 hours, a new record for me. I think I could get that down to 4 hours the next time.
Wrenching doesn't completely suck, and sometimes is very theraputic.

Tom928

My mounts were badly collapsed and riding on metal worn through the rubber.
Before replacing I could barely get my little finger between the oil pan and crossmember, now I can get most of my hand in between.

Difference in the ride - before I had a terrible vibration that shook the front of the car very badly on hard accelration. Now it is so smooth. Makes me want to go drive it right now!!!

Bill Ball

That is quite a sturdy looking engine support. Any link to the source for it?

LATE EDIT: Oh, I think I found it on eBay... In your photos it looks sturdier than in the eBay ad, but I do believe it is the same product.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting