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Old 09-11-2001 | 02:30 PM
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I think we should all take our wonderful 928s down to the local blood center and donate blood to help all those who have been injured in the terrorist attacks.

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Old 09-11-2001 | 02:57 PM
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All the american friends of this community - my condolences. What I saw on CNN channel still keeps my hands shaking although I am kind of used to this stuff happening next to my door every now and then. Hopefully all the western world with US of A in its head will finally realize what our modern civilization is facing these days, and start reacting instead of talking **** like "you Israelis have asked these bombings by yourselves"... I'm really sorry we have come to the point where tens of thousands casualties are needed to make us think, but unfortunately what happened can not be turned back, and we should now only look forward to solving our problems which apparently are much bigger than "just another crisis in Mediterranean".

Honestly sharing your pain,

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Old 09-11-2001 | 04:06 PM
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Thank you so much for your condolences. I would hope that other Americans have sympathy, like I do, for the pressures of terrorism on Israel, and countries throughout the world. My prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by terrorism. It is incredible to me that some religions consider such acts worthy of martyrdom. I do not believe in killing innocent civilians in the name of religion. Many cultures around the world have different religious beliefs, and that is perfectly understandable. However, I never got the concept of killing in the name of “God.”
Old 09-11-2001 | 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jim Nowak:
<STRONG>I think we should all take our wonderful 928s down to the local blood center and donate blood to help all those who have been injured in the terrorist attacks.</STRONG>
I can't; I have given blood withing the past 58 days. In another note, the American Red Cross has been in serious need of blood for months now, and no one new seems to be donating blood.
Old 09-11-2001 | 05:31 PM
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I gave blood 47 days ago, so I have to wait another 9 days (if it's 56) or 11 days (if it's 58). Needless to say, I will as soon as I can.

Regarding terrorism, those who think they are in desperate times call for desperate acts. I could not possible condone such acts, but I can understand why there are some who do, and why they are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for their cause.

It is most interesting that of all the countries throughout the world, it is only the USA that openly supports Israel. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the USA might be considered an accomplice of the acts committed by the state of Israel against Palestinians.

Like I said, I don't condone any terrorism. That includes acts against Palestinians as well as Israelis and Americans. If it can every be possible again - Peace.
Old 09-11-2001 | 06:28 PM
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Well put Ed. I think with what's going on in the world of Islam is that we're going to find leaders we actually like or can at least deal with displaced by this hardcore militant brand of Islam. It's not possible that only two countries on the planet are right, (US/Isreal) and the rest are wrong. We need a policy change from the top and we need to deal with that region FAIRLY. Unfortunately I don't think Bush is up to the job. I don't think any of the people he's surrounded himself with are up to the job either. A saying I heard a while ago comes to mind, "hold your friends close and your enemies closer". Bush has managed neither and boy are we going to pay the price. It seems Israel is like that small kid on the block who knows he's got the biggest, dumbest kid on the block backing him up.
Old 09-11-2001 | 07:23 PM
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In my mind, the problem with Israel / Palestinians is that they are both right. But of corse they are both wrong.
Old 09-11-2001 | 08:23 PM
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Jim,

You are so right. We should all give blood and provide all the support we can to assist victims of terrorism.
Old 09-11-2001 | 11:27 PM
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IMHO we need to put someone with the mindset of William Munny (Clint Eastwood's character in Unforgiven) in charge of mid-east affairs. The policy needs to be simple. We came over here and found this oil. Because of that you are rich beyond your wildest dreams. If you cant behave: eliminate terrorists, set up reasonable governments and act as reponsible world citizens, we're coming back. And when we do, we will kill anything that walks, runs, flies or sits still. Then Exxon will run the oil production. The US Armed Forced will provide security. Gas will go back to 40 cents a gallon. And life will be good. These people don't understand words too well. But the understand steel completely. These people have a prayer asking for "forgiveness" for not "killing an infidel today." An "infidel" is anyone who does not believe as they do i.e. ME. When someone has to pray for forgiveness for not killing me today, he can be nothing but an enemy. And when the time comes it is much better for him to die than for me to die. If we can declare "war" on pot smokers, then we should have no trouble declaring war on those who commit heinous acts of war killing tens of thousands of innocent US citizens. Kill 'em all! Let God sort 'em out!
Old 09-12-2001 | 02:08 AM
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I'd like to think that no world religion condones killing anyone. I can say for certain that Islam seeks peace just as much as Christianity and Judaism does. That does not mean that specific Muslims don't want to kill in "protection" of their religion, just like specific Christians and Jews want to kill in "protection" of theirs. The absolute last thing we should do in reaction to this is lose our heads and go blindly looking for someone to kill. This nation is not great because it has money or military power, it is great because it was built on fairness and due process, and we have to maintain that due process if we want to come out on top.
Old 09-12-2001 | 05:39 AM
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The Trade Centre, Pentagon disaster is the most despicable and cowardly deed I have witnessed in my life. By the sheer scale of this pre-meditated attack on thousands of innocent people, this must be one of the most EVIL deeds ever.

My condolences to those who are suffering.

It makes me sick. This is not just an American tragedy, but a tragedy for the entire free world and whatever the motive behind this attack, it should not be tolerated by the democracies of the world. Now is the time for each and every human being around the world to stand up and be counted.

This is a crime against humanity and if it was perpetrated in the name of any particular religion by a handfull of extremists, then the rest of the people of that religion should denounce this act and stand up against it, because it is wrong and it boils down to the fundamental difference between GOOD and EVIL, regardless of religious beliefs.

We need to sort it out. Due process? I wonder...

Actually, it's quite simple: To prevent this from happening again we have to erradicate the vermon responsible, including those who harbour, foster or protect this EVIL. Period.
Old 09-12-2001 | 08:00 AM
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Ed & Kaz,
It wasn't easy for me to write below lines as I ususally do not act from emotions, however this time I really had to note this:

All what's left now is to blame Israel and "it's terror against poor and peacefull Palestinians" on Taliban (?) attacks against US. Way to go, gentlemen.

And no, if you really feel what you've just expressed - we don't need your support, YOU need it, cause if you weren't holding us, Israelis and Palestinians on a small fire - you would have had such bombings every single week. It is better for you to keep the radical muslim world busy with Israel than having them on your own neck, and this is completely understandable.

And once again - all this recent attack has proved to reasonable people is that nobody is safe today, unless we put an end to the terror in our common effort.

And just a small finishing note on "Israeli terror":
If what we do when we go in and eliminate terrorist heads and their infrastructure is what you call terror, then YES, I support this terror, especially when it keeps commercial airplanes from falling on my family heads. Period.
Old 09-12-2001 | 08:08 AM
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Flint, You might want to think that no religion condones killing people, but there is a difference between wanting something to be true and it being true. Are you insinuating that these killers were attempting to protect their religion? If that is true then we are at war and they must and WILL loose. The quote I made is from a muslim prayer. It is very clear to me.
Old 09-12-2001 | 11:54 AM
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Terrorism perpetrated against anyone by "individuals" "groups" or by a "State" is still terrorism. IOW, a wrong is a wrong is a wrong!

If the USA is perceived as supporting those wrongs, then the USA may be preceived as an accomplice in those wrongs. In other words, My enemy's supporter is also my enemy."

Notice, not one other country in the whole world supports Israel. Why is that?

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Old 09-12-2001 | 01:02 PM
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As I already said,
With all the respect to you, Ed, and others who may share your way of thinking, we don't need this support, and have never asked for it. If you do support Israel without even knowing why, then there probably is something behind it which your government hides from you. Maybe it has something to do with "american way of life" reflected in relatively low fuel prices?..
As a side note, what would be your explanation to the fact that what happened has only happened now, in the Mr. Bush cadency, and not a couple of years back when the biggest ever democracy was ruled by the biggest ever Israel supporter Mr. Clinton?...
Or maybe it really has nothing to do with the (lack of) support Israel is getting from USA?... Just a thought...

Thinking again of what I have just said, f**k it! Bomb Israel together with Talibans as I suggested, and all your problems will disappear. Good luck. Meantime, I'm off to the hospital to send you some blood.


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