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Old 05-21-2007, 02:53 AM
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RSKY BIZ....

You talk about testing the V1 and Passport 8500 virtually side by side...are you talking about having them next to each other and seeing which one alerts the fastest?

If so, that is a incorrect way to test radar detectors since there will be leakage and interference and the RD's will give false reading's. Use 1 RD at a time to give accurate reading.
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And no one could answer me (was a non-contiguous state) whether it wouuld show up on my TX record -- NOT EVEN MY LOCAL TX DMV!

Anyone know how to find THAT info out? -- for 'future reference' at this point, but always 'good to know'. I opted for defensive driving, yet it's unclear whether to register under state where I live or where 'alleged offense' occurred
Here is a list of the states that are members of the DLC and / or the NRVC.

For the most part all states participate in some form or another. Thank goodness for us Washingtonians that Oregon doesn't.
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Originally Posted by P-Car944
RSKY BIZ....

You talk about testing the V1 and Passport 8500 virtually side by side...are you talking about having them next to each other and seeing which one alerts the fastest?

If so, that is a incorrect way to test radar detectors since there will be leakage and interference and the RD's will give false reading's. Use 1 RD at a time to give accurate reading.
P-Car944,
Yes, side-by-side was my understanding, though my friend is a lot more knowledgeable in this (and many other) arenas.
I will pass your info on... Thanks for the 'heads up!' Hate to collect 'inaccurate data'...

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Here is a list of the states that are members of the DLC and / or the NRVC.

For the most part all states participate in some form or another. Thank goodness for us Washingtonians that Oregon doesn't.
Adam,
Wow! Many thanks for the info...
Yes, it looks like I made the correct decision. This info should be in one of those 'know before you go' links!

Now to take Defensive Driving . . .

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heads up "atb" they are using laser on meridian, I got hit by a white unmarked at a distance +/- 300 feet with laser but he didnt get a speed reading. I was pissed that I didnt charge my camcorder.
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Originally Posted by RSKY BIZ
The links-
Here's a dated link, but compares the top three condenders in question:

BEL v ESCORT v VALENTINE
Those guys crack me up. They keep talking about how dated the V1 is -- they apparently haven't bothered to try to understand the many features that have been added and improved since 1992, so what's really dated is their understanding of it. I've posted a correction below for the table shown at the bottom of that link.

Well, I might have exaggerated a bit -- call it 18 user-programmable features -- Factory test on/off probably shouldn't count. :P

Programming the V1 looks intimidating initially, but anyone can do it with a modicum of determination. I'll call them tomorrow and see if the "K" options are "K" only or "K" and "Ka".
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Originally Posted by P-Car944
RSKY BIZ....

You talk about testing the V1 and Passport 8500 virtually side by side...are you talking about having them next to each other and seeing which one alerts the fastest?

If so, that is a incorrect way to test radar detectors since there will be leakage and interference and the RD's will give false reading's. Use 1 RD at a time to give accurate reading.
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Originally Posted by SharkSkin
Those guys crack me up. . . . .Well, I might have exaggerated a bit -- call it 18 user-programmable features -- Factory test on/off probably shouldn't count. :P

Programming the V1 looks intimidating initially, but anyone can do it with a modicum of determination. I'll call them tomorrow and see if the "K" options are "K" only or "K" and "Ka".
SharkSkin-

Yeah, I laughed, too, when I saw the virtually blank V-1 column (wanna talk about 'skewed data?')... Thanks for 'filling in the blanks!'

Let me ask this -- Is there anyway you can think of to run a 'simultaneous study'??? Without our own radar / laser equipment, how best to study and compare the units then?

Hmmm, I did have access to one 'gun' a race or two ago. . .



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heads up "atb" they are using laser on meridian, I got hit by a white unmarked at a distance +/- 300 feet with laser but he didnt get a speed reading.
They've been using a lot of laser in the South Hill/Canyon road area in the most recent traffic emphasis. All of the new speeding ticket clients I've got in the last two weeks are all laser and all in the South Hill/ Canyon Road vicinity.
They can be a little more tricky to dump than the radar cases just because there is less certification required with a LIDAR unit as compared to the radar.

Glad you got away. Be careful out there, with the current speed emphasis patrols, they are everywhere.
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Its just the K band that you can auto mute and its adjustable also. Ka band is the 2nd most threat only to laser. I really dont worry about a K band alert due to the understanding how it works but only really condsider it a threat if the signal gets very strong and watching the "Arrow". Ka is a major threat so that you dont want to ignore or auto-mute because you might miss that threat and it would be a ticket. The V1 is not dated and gets regular software revisions, nothing else will go in my car's.
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Originally Posted by RSKY BIZ
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Yeah, I laughed, too, when I saw the virtually blank V-1 column (wanna talk about 'skewed data?')... Thanks for 'filling in the blanks!'

Let me ask this -- Is there anyway you can think of to run a 'simultaneous study'??? Without our own radar / laser equipment, how best to study and compare the units then?
Best way to do this on a shoestring IMHO is use FRS radios in two cars. If you can run in close proximity to one another without getting false signals, great, but ideally you want a couple hundred yards separation or more. Then the lead car(or whoever gets a signal first reports to the other, e.g. "Strong Ka topping the rise" or whatever the case may be. If you're in an area with lots of X falsing use one of the "L" modes. You'll just have to wing it -- the lead car may detect a radar source that is switched off by the time the second car gets there -- or vice-versa.

There is no way to just run cross country and get scientific results. This is why folks who test these units will tend to set up test courses, in an area with no stray signals. this way they know exactly where the radar source is, when it gets switched on/off, etc.

If you do this ad-hoc test over the course of a few hundred miles you will get a feel for the relative strengths and weaknesses of the two units you're comparing. If you're traveling several hundred miles, consider switching detectors a couple times during the trip, but make sure to take the time to understand the operation of the different unit.

For the V1, read through the descriptions of the indicators a couple times, drive a little then read it again. Also, keep in mind that setting up the V1 remote with different-colored LEDs for the different bands makes a world of difference. A good instrument will give you situational awareness without having to do more than glance at it or use your peripheral vision. You need to be able to see what's going on in the world, not squint to read tiny text on a tiny screen.
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Originally Posted by P-Car944
Its just the K band that you can auto mute and its adjustable also.
Thanks for clarifying.
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Best way to do this on a shoestring IMHO is use FRS radios in two cars. If you can run in close proximity to one another without getting false signals, great, but ideally you want a couple hundred yards separation or more. . . .
If you do this ad-hoc test over the course of a few hundred miles you will get a feel for the relative strengths and weaknesses of the two units you're comparing. . . .
For the V1, read through the descriptions of the indicators a couple times, drive a little then read it again. Also, keep in mind that setting up the V1 remote with different-colored LEDs for the different bands makes a world of difference. A good instrument will give you situational awareness without having to do more than glance at it or use your peripheral vision. You need to be able to see what's going on in the world, not squint to read tiny text on a tiny screen.
Dave,
Thanks for your insight...
We did a ~150 mile trip when I purchased RSKY BIZ and I recall being surprised when my friend, in the lead, signaled to me re: 'LEO's (Andrew -- we gotta do better than that expression!)... I was WAY concerned that my V-1 hadn't picked the signal up yet, and his Passport had, however, he picked it up on 'visual' first... then the Passport...
The V-1 did kick in, but his visual was first.

I have had my V-1 long enough that it's time to go back and RTFM! (again)...
I never programmed for different colored LED's, but that would add a helpful dimension (and I'll take all the help I can!)

Time to get out the colored Sharpies! Another few hour road trip, uh, later today . . .WITH MY V-1!!!
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