Insane deal on an S4... how can I pass it up? (LONG)
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Insane deal on an S4... how can I pass it up? (LONG)
I am kicking myself for not buying it on the spot... but I found this car online today:
"1987 Porsche 928s4, 180,000 miles, needs work. Damage to rear bumper shocks and left front fender. However the car has a few upgrades, 18" kinesis wheels, momo racing seats and steering wheel, custom Devek level II headers and 3.5"exhaust, borla xr-1 muffler, brembo big red front brakes, bilstein shocks, eibach springs, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, clear title. $3500"
I went to see it this afternoon and the damage is not that bad. Car has been sitting for 2 years, but was SCCA raced, dyno'd at 340 hp at the wheels. The exhaust is cat-less, so not street legal for me. We couldn't start it up because the battery is dead, but the owner says it is insanely loud, and I believe him. The pipe is ENORMOUS, front to back. Clutch has 5k on it; timing belt recently retensioned; ac inoperable; p/s leak; front rotors are cross drilled but probably need to be replaced. No known tranny problems. Owner otherwise seems to have taken very good care of it; he's a nice guy who now races Ducatis instead of 928s.
The wheels are a five spoke kinesis, but nothing they still sell. Not sure what model number. They have a polished chrome lip but not super deep, even on the rears. The spoke is wider than what I think is the K58 now. I don't love them but I certainly like them better than what I have (dinner plates/manholes). They're in good enough shape that I'd ride on them around town but not worry about dinging them. One tire is flat but I happen to have one ready to go on in its stead.
Body: The front accident is from a truck backing into him; it is dinged but easily fixed with a rubber mallet and some touchup paint. The rear has a softball size concave lump from a small car rear ending him; both accidents occured while the car was parked (possible transmission impact?); not sure if it's pop-able or not. The paint back there is chipped, though. The whole car needs a waxing for sure, as it is arrest-me red, but quite faded.
Interior: good carpet, momo seats are very faded but the shells are reusable. The momo wheel is not my taste, but ebay-able, as is the goofy momo shift ****. No stereo, but new speakers. Dash is totally cracked up.
SO, talk me into/out of buying this car. I still have a shot at it if I move quickly. Right now I'm thinking I'll either buy it, swap off everything I want (wheels, brembo brakes, suspension parts, and maybe the momo seats if I can get them recovered) and sell it, probably on eBay or otherwise locally, as a whole car; OR I will part it out completely and keep only what I want (see above).
How tough is it to swap out springs and shocks on a 928S4? (Approx. how many hours labor with air tools and on a lift). Calipers?
If I buy it, should I part it out? Sell it as a whole? Thanks for reading this enormous post and any advice you can provide is welcome.
"1987 Porsche 928s4, 180,000 miles, needs work. Damage to rear bumper shocks and left front fender. However the car has a few upgrades, 18" kinesis wheels, momo racing seats and steering wheel, custom Devek level II headers and 3.5"exhaust, borla xr-1 muffler, brembo big red front brakes, bilstein shocks, eibach springs, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, clear title. $3500"
I went to see it this afternoon and the damage is not that bad. Car has been sitting for 2 years, but was SCCA raced, dyno'd at 340 hp at the wheels. The exhaust is cat-less, so not street legal for me. We couldn't start it up because the battery is dead, but the owner says it is insanely loud, and I believe him. The pipe is ENORMOUS, front to back. Clutch has 5k on it; timing belt recently retensioned; ac inoperable; p/s leak; front rotors are cross drilled but probably need to be replaced. No known tranny problems. Owner otherwise seems to have taken very good care of it; he's a nice guy who now races Ducatis instead of 928s.
The wheels are a five spoke kinesis, but nothing they still sell. Not sure what model number. They have a polished chrome lip but not super deep, even on the rears. The spoke is wider than what I think is the K58 now. I don't love them but I certainly like them better than what I have (dinner plates/manholes). They're in good enough shape that I'd ride on them around town but not worry about dinging them. One tire is flat but I happen to have one ready to go on in its stead.
Body: The front accident is from a truck backing into him; it is dinged but easily fixed with a rubber mallet and some touchup paint. The rear has a softball size concave lump from a small car rear ending him; both accidents occured while the car was parked (possible transmission impact?); not sure if it's pop-able or not. The paint back there is chipped, though. The whole car needs a waxing for sure, as it is arrest-me red, but quite faded.
Interior: good carpet, momo seats are very faded but the shells are reusable. The momo wheel is not my taste, but ebay-able, as is the goofy momo shift ****. No stereo, but new speakers. Dash is totally cracked up.
SO, talk me into/out of buying this car. I still have a shot at it if I move quickly. Right now I'm thinking I'll either buy it, swap off everything I want (wheels, brembo brakes, suspension parts, and maybe the momo seats if I can get them recovered) and sell it, probably on eBay or otherwise locally, as a whole car; OR I will part it out completely and keep only what I want (see above).
How tough is it to swap out springs and shocks on a 928S4? (Approx. how many hours labor with air tools and on a lift). Calipers?
If I buy it, should I part it out? Sell it as a whole? Thanks for reading this enormous post and any advice you can provide is welcome.
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Not far from you...
Originally Posted by Kevin Michael
Where is it. Yes my gears are turning.....
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If I buy it, should I part it out? Sell it as a whole? Thanks for reading this enormous post and any advice you can provide is welcome.
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Originally Posted by Joe '87 S4
Is that 340 hp at the wheels accurate? What's the normal hp gain with Level II headers?
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No brainer if it runs....heck, even if it doesn't sounds like a good deal. High miles, but that is reflected in the price. Upgrades make it worth it. Swapping out springs/shocks is easy DIY, one day job.
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It sounds like a bargin.....the parts value alone is far beyond the $3500...tell the guy your scared because it doesn't run......show up with $3K cash....take the title and run.....get it home at start diagnosing it...worst case scenario is the engine is shot.....but everything else could be sold for a profit.....the rims-brakes-bilsteins alone are worth $3K....