V-Fib

It would seem that (most) everyone wants to install a S/C, Turbo or TT, or hybrid, delete their rear seats and on and on with other custom ideas. I know everyone intends to keep their 928 forever, right? Does this or will this affect the prices of a basically stock 928's in good condition? It appears to me that most of these modifications would greatly hinder resale value for those 928's with such modifications. If these cars ever hit the market again,I think most would not be returned to their stock configuration. Returning them to stock or near stock would be an expensive proposition/endeavor to the next owner.
This thread is not intended to start a flame war with those who heavily modify their 928's. It is your car, do what you want, but I am more in the mindset of preservation vs modification. My PO did add S-spoilers front and rear and CS wheels. And yes, I did put an M28/11 into the 79, but these are very minor in nature (compared to others) and could easily and relatively inexpensively be reversed (maybe not the engine).
As there are fewer and fewer 928's, I don't understand the resistance to preservation.
Example: In 1984 alone, there were 50K Corvettes sold. From 1977(ish) to 1995 there were only about + or - 50K 928's. There are more and more 78-84/85 928's on Ebay and else where for sale that are parts cars not worth restoration.
Okay, Let me have it......

heinrich

The answer is: If we do not modify these cars will become extinct.

V-Fib

Please explain....I'm old and more than a little slow.

bfellows

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/226608-returning-to-stock.html

My thought's entirely.....

heinrich

OK bull**** on the old and slow part Anthony .... anyway, here's my opinion. The car was a special special thing when it came out. It was basically everything a driver had dreamt about for centuries. Now all that technology is old and crusty. Yes, late-model GTS's fetch high prices but give it time, all that rubber, all that plastic, all that vacuum, all that electrical wire, all that .... complication ... it will bring the 928 to its knees.

We can't prevent this. But what we CAN do, is update every single part of the total 2,000 or whatever crazy number it is. Drop what is not necessary, like flaps that close at speed for no real reason; seats that are heavier than some cars and antennas in windshields that add 500 bucks to the price; lightbulbs everywhere etc etc. The body is good for a lifetime. The negine too, So's the transmission. All the rest ... it's consumptible. We can make the 928 keep up with the Hondas of today .... but not in stock, '80's form.

marton

seems a pity to ignore 20/30 years of technology development and not to take advantage of such improvements.

It is a bit like saying that people who are in need of medical treatment should only receive the treatments that were current when they were born?

Marton

heinrich

what Marton said exactly.

jon928se

Thinking cosmetically preserve if good modify if not so good

Mechanically/Electrically - preserving as original will become more difficult as parts become NLA - hence modify may be the only option.

If a rare car preserve is a more attractive option. I wanted a track car but ended up with one nice cosmetically and with history GT and one rare OK cosmetically SE - so I can't bring myself to strip out either of them. Maybe one will get an SC when the cash is available.

danglerb

928's require one thing, HAPPY OWNERS, take that away and they would all be beer cans in a year.

As it sits many cars are insufficiently loved, so preservation requires innovation and improvement to draw in more owners that want more than the original car. Happy original owners most likely have the cars they want already.

V-Fib

Excellent Point....

New is not always better, ask anyone over 50.....

Yet another excellent point... you're starting to sway me a little

heinrich

Anthony I do agree somewhat with the thread posted by Bert Fellows above. Your car is uniquely simple as compared to later models. Were I you I would indeed however STILL simplify it. Simplicity is the mother of survival.

V-Fib

Well Stated.. Worth Repeating.

SharkSkin

That's actually not quite as ridiculous as it sounds. Back then, docs would actually try to figure out how to help you. Now, they just throw the pill du jour at you and overcharge your insurance.

marton

True but the 928 did not stay the same throughout its life, Porsche themselves made lots of changes; some they kept and sometimes they went back to the original design.

So what is meant by preservation? Where is the boundary?
Are you going to take off the iron oil pump crank and go back to aluminium?
Do you really want to change the sump gasket every few years or move to silicon?
Do you want to do a deal with a major oil company so that they still produce oil to the old formulas?

Different car clubs have different ideas about what is meant by "original".

I think you should better define what you mean by "preservation" before the point can be properly discussed.

Marton

V-Fib

Marton, Point taken.... to a point...... I guess I am not what one would call a "Purist"?