Lower Hatch Receiver - Problems for all!
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My car came with the PO's shims. His shims actually damaged the soft upper latch when the bolts were tightened down.
I removed the shims, repaired the damaged paint work on the hatch, adjusted the lower receiver piece. Works great ever since.
I removed the shims, repaired the damaged paint work on the hatch, adjusted the lower receiver piece. Works great ever since.
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I will report the the new receiver I received from 928 Intl yesterday is NOT malformed and works perfectly. Also, after taking the old one apart, including diasassembling the hatch release motor and replacing the upper latch tongue, I would like to say I understand how it works, but I don't feel completely comfortable with making that claim.
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Bill,
I received another batch of 10 from Porsche last week and they were all bad.
I modified them and they are good.
Hopefully these are the last of the batch.
Roger
I received another batch of 10 from Porsche last week and they were all bad.
I modified them and they are good.
Hopefully these are the last of the batch.
Roger
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Does it have the "Do It Yourself" manual transmission, or the superior "Fully Equipped by Porsche" Automatic Transmission? George Layton March 2014
928 Owners are ".....a secret sect of quietly assured Porsche pragmatists who in near anonymity appreciate the prodigious, easy going prowess of the 928."
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I re-read the thread and reminded myself that you discovered it was a burr in the pin switch mount hole.
Also, I remember now that I need to order a fuel line kit from you! Email coming.
Also, I remember now that I need to order a fuel line kit from you! Email coming.
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Bill,
Yes just run a 5/16" IIRC drill into the threaded hole and its fixed. The drill needs to be the ID of the hole.
Roger
Yes just run a 5/16" IIRC drill into the threaded hole and its fixed. The drill needs to be the ID of the hole.
Roger
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Roger - do you have both of the plastic latch parts Bill identified in stock? Do you know what the difference is between them?
Though the upper lock part is different for the alarm version (with switch). I can't see why they would have changed the locking pawl...? anyone?
I know the rear hatch is a source of lots of issues but I don't quite see how understanding its basic operation is so hard - its all pretty much visible no?
While the electrical part is admittedly quite non-intuitive to deduce - isn't it still pretty simple when explained?
I know the alighment part can be hard because you can't see whats going on... and making adjustments is awkward and not precise - that I know can be frustrating.
Alan
Though the upper lock part is different for the alarm version (with switch). I can't see why they would have changed the locking pawl...? anyone?
I know the rear hatch is a source of lots of issues but I don't quite see how understanding its basic operation is so hard - its all pretty much visible no?
While the electrical part is admittedly quite non-intuitive to deduce - isn't it still pretty simple when explained?
I know the alighment part can be hard because you can't see whats going on... and making adjustments is awkward and not precise - that I know can be frustrating.
Alan
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Roger displayed both the alarm and non-alarm tongues here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...8&postcount=14
The receiver operation baffled me until I removed it and saw how the lever and pawl worked. The proper alignment of the motor isn't entirely obvious, although if you move it down or up too too far, the motor complains because it can't make the full turn. The way the motor cycles off was a bit baffling too until I took the cover off the motor (discovering a chipped gear) and saw the internal position contacts. You did the best job yet of explaining how the hatch motor works here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...01&postcount=6
https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...8&postcount=14
The receiver operation baffled me until I removed it and saw how the lever and pawl worked. The proper alignment of the motor isn't entirely obvious, although if you move it down or up too too far, the motor complains because it can't make the full turn. The way the motor cycles off was a bit baffling too until I took the cover off the motor (discovering a chipped gear) and saw the internal position contacts. You did the best job yet of explaining how the hatch motor works here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...01&postcount=6
Last edited by Bill Ball; 02-20-2008 at 12:42 PM.
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Hi Bill,
You do not know there is a problem with the lower assembly until it is installed and you close the hatch. The big white pin sticks in the down position.
The burr is right up inside where the thread finishes.
Alan,
I carry all the parts for the upper hatch lock.
You do not know there is a problem with the lower assembly until it is installed and you close the hatch. The big white pin sticks in the down position.
The burr is right up inside where the thread finishes.
Alan,
I carry all the parts for the upper hatch lock.
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Bill & Roger thx..
So is the top of the white 'tongue' (I'll go with whatever description works) just a spring attachment point? it doesn't do anything else right? - I assume its cranked over to the side & longer like that to just avoid the space the switch connector takes up?
Alan
So is the top of the white 'tongue' (I'll go with whatever description works) just a spring attachment point? it doesn't do anything else right? - I assume its cranked over to the side & longer like that to just avoid the space the switch connector takes up?
Alan
#57
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At last my hatch release is working again. I had previously replaced the nylon latch in the upper part and this worked, for six months.
This time I decided to get to the bottom of the problem so I removed both upper and lower latch and tested the release action by hand. Even with the cam at max the latch didn't release. I decided this was because the liner in the lower part was deformed, it had simply become squashed with age.
Luckily I had one of Nicole's business cards to hand, so I cut off a strip, folded it in two and placed it between the liner and the receiver under the ribbed part.
This presses the upper part of the latch towards the nylon catch, and now the cam depresses the catch sufficiently to release when operated.
This time I decided to get to the bottom of the problem so I removed both upper and lower latch and tested the release action by hand. Even with the cam at max the latch didn't release. I decided this was because the liner in the lower part was deformed, it had simply become squashed with age.
Luckily I had one of Nicole's business cards to hand, so I cut off a strip, folded it in two and placed it between the liner and the receiver under the ribbed part.
This presses the upper part of the latch towards the nylon catch, and now the cam depresses the catch sufficiently to release when operated.
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FWIW, I have 2 (two) RHS door window nylon guides (the things that bolt to the glass and slide on the vertical tube) , but the MOULDED part numbers are 1 x RHS, 1 X LHS....Nobody at the dealer seems the slightest bit interested.
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Hi John,
Are you trying to find out the part numbers?
Or have some you want to sell?
I can let you have the part numbers if thats what you are after.
Roger
Are you trying to find out the part numbers?
Or have some you want to sell?
I can let you have the part numbers if thats what you are after.
Roger