Two tone interiors and seats (GT3)
#1
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Guys and girls, I have a slight dilema with my new GT3 seat purchase, now my seats are currently blue and the car is shieferblau, or slate blue.
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/928s_interior_seats_copy4.jpg)
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/928s_side_view_1.jpg)
Also I wonder how I'm going to with people getting in and out of the rear seat without a folding mechanism? The GT3 seat is very slimline compared to a standard S2 seat.
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/gt_3_seat_side_view.jpg)
I will do a measure from the dimensions that I have on the seats, has anybody out there got fixed back seats in there 928 now? How is the access?
Going back to my original question, I had to order black seats, the blue seats don't really match and they are much more expensive too, I can paint seats really well and also could recover if I had to. Any thoughts on if I recover my rear seats black in a matching leather, how is this going to look? Maybe I also have to change the carpets to black? I don't really want to have to change the whole interior colour.
Any thoughts or better still pics of 928s with two tone interiors?
Thanks and Merry Christmas if you celebrate that kind of thing.
Cheers Greg
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/928s_interior_seats_copy4.jpg)
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/928s_side_view_1.jpg)
Also I wonder how I'm going to with people getting in and out of the rear seat without a folding mechanism? The GT3 seat is very slimline compared to a standard S2 seat.
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/gt_3_seat_side_view.jpg)
I will do a measure from the dimensions that I have on the seats, has anybody out there got fixed back seats in there 928 now? How is the access?
Going back to my original question, I had to order black seats, the blue seats don't really match and they are much more expensive too, I can paint seats really well and also could recover if I had to. Any thoughts on if I recover my rear seats black in a matching leather, how is this going to look? Maybe I also have to change the carpets to black? I don't really want to have to change the whole interior colour.
Any thoughts or better still pics of 928s with two tone interiors?
Thanks and Merry Christmas if you celebrate that kind of thing.
Cheers Greg
#3
Under the Lift
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Black front seats in an otherwise blue interior isn't going to look right. Jeez, your old seats look pretty nice!
Perhaps leaving the cloth pillows black and painting the leather blue will work.
Perhaps leaving the cloth pillows black and painting the leather blue will work.
#5
Former Vendor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I have a set of GT3 seats in the shop right now. I've been commissioned to re-cover them in black and red suede.
I have not tackled the project yet, but at first glance, they are easy to recover.
You should be able to find someone locally to do the job at a fair price. If not, just wait a while and see what I come up with. If you like it, once I have my templates, making a set of covers that matches your interior will be no problem at all.
Paul
I have not tackled the project yet, but at first glance, they are easy to recover.
You should be able to find someone locally to do the job at a fair price. If not, just wait a while and see what I come up with. If you like it, once I have my templates, making a set of covers that matches your interior will be no problem at all.
Paul
#6
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Thanks Paul, that's a bit of luck that you have those seats in your shop. The leather that was is my Shieferblau car was swizer from Germany, now out of business, ( I know the spelling is wrong) That was was quite a tough leather but still fine grain or pressing, the leather I have in my other S2 the iris car is Adrian Muirhead from Scotland, it again is a fine leather except it is a aviation leather and the blue is not available any more unless you find old stock. I can post what that was as I have a sample swatch in the car. That leather would be perfect for me to do the retrim, the colour is supurb along with being lightweight and a fine leather.
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/iris_s2_drivers_side_copy6.jpg)
Have you or do you use this leather in the US? Also have you ever sown the rear seats with french stiching, does that look any good that way? It would match the GT3 seats better I think if it was done that way. Also this time I would go for the pin holes. Please any thoughts? When you know pricing Paul please PM me about this. I will also get back to you about the colour the Muirhead was, and see if it is still available.
Many thanks and Merry Christmas
Greg
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/iris_s2_drivers_side_copy6.jpg)
Have you or do you use this leather in the US? Also have you ever sown the rear seats with french stiching, does that look any good that way? It would match the GT3 seats better I think if it was done that way. Also this time I would go for the pin holes. Please any thoughts? When you know pricing Paul please PM me about this. I will also get back to you about the colour the Muirhead was, and see if it is still available.
Many thanks and Merry Christmas
Greg
#7
Drifting
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
greg, maybe try them in the car and see what you think? ive seen loads of cars with two tone interiors that work really well, especialy with black as one of the colours. merry xmas too!
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Trending Topics
#8
Former Vendor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Hey Greg,
send me a small sample of the blue. It's hard to tell from the posted picture, but I'm pretty sure I can match it.
PM me for the address
Thanks
Paul
send me a small sample of the blue. It's hard to tell from the posted picture, but I'm pretty sure I can match it.
PM me for the address
Thanks
Paul
#9
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Hi Paul, the leather is actually Andrew Muirhead from Scotland, the colour is melrose malin, I will investigate availablity, I will wait as Dr Nick says to get the seats back in Australia, at present they are in Florida. Very interested to see how the other GT3 seats turn out and also interested in seeing any pics of french seamed rear seats. What is you opinion of the french seamed seats in a 928?
Here's a link to Andrew Muirhead
Thanks for your response Greg
Here's a link to Andrew Muirhead
Thanks for your response Greg
Last edited by slate blue; 12-26-2006 at 06:20 AM.
#10
Former Vendor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by Greg Gray
Hi Paul, the leather is actually Andrew Muirhead from Scotland, the colour is melrose marlin, I will investigate availablity, I will wait as Dr Nick says to get the seats back in Australia, at present they are in Florida. Very interested to see how the other GT3 seats turn out and also interested in seeing any pics of french seamed rear seats. What is you opinion of the french seamed seats in a 928?
Here's a link to Andrew Muirhead
Thanks for your response Greg
Here's a link to Andrew Muirhead
Thanks for your response Greg
thanks for the link. I had no knowledge of this tannery.
As for the French seams, you might have seen some of my earlier posts. I came up with an update to the 928 seats featuring French seams. I have not yet done the back seat to match, but that was planned from the beginning and presents no problem.
If you have not seen this project, you can see the pictures of the prototype by clicking on my signature which will bring you to my website.
Thanks
Paul
#11
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Hi Paul, the leather from Muirheads is impressive, as I mentioned the one I have is an aviation grade leather, thin and lightweight, although not cheap, trade price in USD it would be about $100 per sq metre. It has a fine grain, I don't know if it is natural or not but certainly not course like the Chinese leathers that are out there.
When I was chasing some swizer, before I realised they had gone broke, I found a distributer for them, the leather grain was really course. I enquired why was it nothing like the one in my car, they said the Chinese, (Malays) bought the name soon after the company going under to try and trade on their good (swizers) name. So becareful of that brand now.
I also clicked on your link, lots of good stuff there! I'm sorry I haven't been following many posts lately, been busier than a one armed brick layer in Bagdad. The work you do is impressive, the prices keen too, my problem is that my friend does my trimming, he is a great trimmer you only need to look at the seats to see that, he has done many concours winners and is the official trimmer to Porsche dealers in Sydney. So I would be interested to hear what you have to say about the GT3 seats, but I will probably have to use my friend. Just thought I should disclose that.
Cheers Greg
When I was chasing some swizer, before I realised they had gone broke, I found a distributer for them, the leather grain was really course. I enquired why was it nothing like the one in my car, they said the Chinese, (Malays) bought the name soon after the company going under to try and trade on their good (swizers) name. So becareful of that brand now.
I also clicked on your link, lots of good stuff there! I'm sorry I haven't been following many posts lately, been busier than a one armed brick layer in Bagdad. The work you do is impressive, the prices keen too, my problem is that my friend does my trimming, he is a great trimmer you only need to look at the seats to see that, he has done many concours winners and is the official trimmer to Porsche dealers in Sydney. So I would be interested to hear what you have to say about the GT3 seats, but I will probably have to use my friend. Just thought I should disclose that.
Cheers Greg
#12
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Question RE: French Stitch etc.
I've always been of the impression that any seam stitching and protruding beading would fail before the hidden stitching that's not open to abrasion. If this is true, seats with exposed stitching/beading may not last as long. Am I wrong?
H2 (HH)
I've always been of the impression that any seam stitching and protruding beading would fail before the hidden stitching that's not open to abrasion. If this is true, seats with exposed stitching/beading may not last as long. Am I wrong?
H2 (HH)
#13
Former Vendor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by Greg Gray
Hi Paul, the leather from Muirheads is impressive, as I mentioned the one I have is an aviation grade leather, thin and lightweight, although not cheap, trade price in USD it would be about $100 per sq metre. It has a fine grain, I don't know if it is natural or not but certainly not course like the Chinese leathers that are out there.
When I was chasing some swizer, before I realised they had gone broke, I found a distributer for them, the leather grain was really course. I enquired why was it nothing like the one in my car, they said the Chinese, (Malays) bought the name soon after the company going under to try and trade on their good (swizers) name. So becareful of that brand now.
I also clicked on your link, lots of good stuff there! I'm sorry I haven't been following many posts lately, been busier than a one armed brick layer in Bagdad. The work you do is impressive, the prices keen too, my problem is that my friend does my trimming, he is a great trimmer you only need to look at the seats to see that, he has done many concours winners and is the official trimmer to Porsche dealers in Sydney. So I would be interested to hear what you have to say about the GT3 seats, but I will probably have to use my friend. Just thought I should disclose that.
Cheers Greg
When I was chasing some swizer, before I realised they had gone broke, I found a distributer for them, the leather grain was really course. I enquired why was it nothing like the one in my car, they said the Chinese, (Malays) bought the name soon after the company going under to try and trade on their good (swizers) name. So becareful of that brand now.
I also clicked on your link, lots of good stuff there! I'm sorry I haven't been following many posts lately, been busier than a one armed brick layer in Bagdad. The work you do is impressive, the prices keen too, my problem is that my friend does my trimming, he is a great trimmer you only need to look at the seats to see that, he has done many concours winners and is the official trimmer to Porsche dealers in Sydney. So I would be interested to hear what you have to say about the GT3 seats, but I will probably have to use my friend. Just thought I should disclose that.
Cheers Greg
I personally use hides from Italy for most of the projects. The leather is far superior to what is usually found from the factory.
Paul
#14
Former Vendor
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by Hughett
Question RE: French Stitch etc.
I've always been of the impression that any seam stitching and protruding beading would fail before the hidden stitching that's not open to abrasion. If this is true, seats with exposed stitching/beading may not last as long. Am I wrong?
H2 (HH)
I've always been of the impression that any seam stitching and protruding beading would fail before the hidden stitching that's not open to abrasion. If this is true, seats with exposed stitching/beading may not last as long. Am I wrong?
H2 (HH)
Hey Hughett,
you are actually wrong about that
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
A piping seam is all held together by one thread.
A regular French seam is also held together by only one thread. The 2 visible lines are only for show.
But a properly reinforced French seam like I use for the seats, is held together by 3 separate threads.
And from my experience in taking apart quite a bit of original leather, the main reason of failure is thread deterioration. Abrasion does play a role I'm sure, but the thread itself just fall apart even in the areas when it was not touched.
Paul