silverbullet

Hey,
I've always liked the look and sound of the later 928s. So I've been considering picking up a S4 or GT sometime in the next year. I know the S4s have around 317? horsepower. When I drove one last year it didn't feel that quick from a stop.

So I was wondering what other cars are about equal to a late 928 in performance. Is it as fast as a stock LS1 camaro or vette? Mustang GT?

Just wondering,
Thanks!

SharkSkin

The 928 is a true GT, and as such is geared for speed, not jackrabbit launches. 928s are formidable over 60mph and in that speed regime will quickly reel in cars that are primarily designed for impressive 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.

tomcat

Josh,

More than likely the car you drove started in second gear, or quickly shifted out of first into second. But I agree with Sharkskin - must better performance once rolling. The na turbo effect.

Cliff Ruckstuhl

Figure in what I call the "Mall Effect", How Many Mustang's,Camaro's and Vettes are you going to see on the way to the Mall on a nice Summer evening. Then ask your self how many 928 S4 will one see? You WILL get the cool thumbs up from every one who knows what it is and those who do not know what it is. In one of the cars mentioned you won't even get a look.

Cliff

Jim bailey - 928 International

The stock 928 S-4 is FAST just not especially quick compared to some of todays cars... Yet a stock S-4 if you hold down the gas pedal for 14 seconds SHOULD be going about 100 mph keep it down long enough and it should top out at 165-170 or so. Cruise it at 150 for 30 minutes and you will be 75 miles from home ! or in jail or dead...unless you happen to be on the Autobahn.

RicerSchnitzzle

If you want more power, get the S4 not the GT. Use the money saved to get a Super Charger. You're now able to keep up with just about anything, yet handle better and have the top end known of as "Ludicrous Speed"

Kevin Michael

Guys, I have no idea why you say "thge 928 is not a 0-60 car. My ***! My s4 before the sc could and did beat my brother in law's 98 Ls1 TA. Also my friend's 97 c-5 vette and the list goes on. I have been trounced by a c-5 z06 and a mustang cobra with jacked boost. That was my 5-spd. s4. The auto s4 requires knowing how the car shifts and when to shift it. The auto s4 I had was a jack rabbit. Start it in first, brake stand to about 2800 then let go. It has to collect itself for a moment , then it flew. I G-teched my auto s4 with no mods at 5.7 doing this. Look up 0-60 times of anything up till recent years, then tell me a 928 is not a 0-60 car. It just so happens that it will go 165 as well.
Kevin

BC

Weight, Gearing, and actually getting the car running like it should are three big issues. Beyond that some increases can be had with exhaust and tuning (87+).

Its a great platform, and getting familiar with it has been very fun.

When my 89 started in 1st, it always seemed like it was pretty fast. Highway runs were even better. It is still a 20 year old car (an S4) and many things have happened in 20 years.

Namely, you can go to a Honda Dealership and buy a 6spd Honda Accord Sedan with nearly 300hp from a 3.xL engine that gets 30mpg.

SharkSkin

Kevin, how about the new Boxster, clocking in 0-60 around 5 sec? Mustang GT, 5.1 sec? 2006 Subaru STi, 4.7? Corvette C6, 4.2? In fact, according to an article I just googled up, with the exception of the convertible, all vettes since ~1997 were sub-5 sec. 0-60.

Sure, it will pin you back in your seat 0-60. But these days, an S4 is just not at the top of the 0-60 food chain anymore.

silverbullet

So really even though the american cars may get it off the line or through the 1/4, the 928 should start to pull away after 100 or so. That sounds alot like my 951, kinda sluggish at first but get past 60 and it pulls. Going by the S4s 0-60 times of around 5.5, it seems pretty comparable to todays sports cars.

So what hp numbers would you get by doing all the basic bolt-ons, like headers, exhaust/x pipe, etc?

Shane

I have found nothing slugggish about any of my cars, stock or otherwise. I've owned a Mustang cobra and my 86 auto would beat it hands down. But that was not what I was looking for when I bought my cars. I was looking for a well made car, something I wasn't finding in American cars.

danglerb

Yup, for all the time you drive above 150 mph, few cars will keep up. Its only for the 99.999% of the time you drive somewhat within the speed limit that you get whooped.

This is a dead horse(power) well beaten thread topic, street performance is about traction and money, and there will ALWAYS be somebody out there faster. Plenty of people have 10 sec 1/4 cars as daily drivers, but early on in this game I think you have to start doing things that make a car less of a Porsche and more of a common hot rod.

Can't say how fast it is, but my old 234 hp 5 spd is more fun than the automatics I have driven, but not as fast feeling as my stock 91 mustang 200 hp 5 spd. Odd thing is that I tend to speed more in the 928 due I think to the higher rpm power curve.

IcemanG17

[QUOTE=Kevin Michael]Guys, I have no idea why you say "thge 928 is not a 0-60 car. My ***! My s4 before the sc could and did beat my brother in law's 98 Ls1 TA. Also my friend's 97 c-5 vette and the list goes on. I have been trounced by a c-5 z06 and a mustang cobra with jacked boost. That was my 5-spd. s4. The auto s4 requires knowing how the car shifts and when to shift it. The auto s4 I had was a jack rabbit. Start it in first, brake stand to about 2800 then let go. It has to collect itself for a moment , then it flew. I G-teched my auto s4 with no mods at 5.7 doing this. Look up 0-60 times of anything up till recent years, then tell me a 928 is not a 0-60 car. It just so happens that it will go 165 as well.
Kevin[/QUOTE

Since most S4's are automatics with a 2.20 rear end and an open diff 3500+lbs....this is not a good combo for drag racing...HOWEVER...my bone stock 88 S4 (2.20 open diff) did a 5.98 0-60 the first time I tried it just by flooring it...no power braking...nothing.....ended up with a 14.52 @101 too....not bad & really easy to do too! But the highway is where it really wakes up.....I love 60-80 passing runs...tranny drops to 2nd.....BWAAHHHH 2.8 seconds later your cruising 80mph!

SharkSkin

My impression was that the question was about comparisons "stock <--> stock".

I think you speed more in the 928 because it doesn't feel as if you're "riding it" like the Rustang.

danglerb

No, the Mustang has something that may be unfamiliar to 928 owners, its called torque. The difference in the power curves explains it fine, Mustang has a strong low end and drops off on the top end, 928 has a weak low end and strong top end.

Lexus and Jag were more the real world competition for the 928.