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Old 10-14-2006, 11:58 PM
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Default A word to the wise (using ether for starting - RV)

After spending much of my free time this week replacing and refreshing all the seals, gaskets, and vacuum lines on the intake, injectors, etc, I put it all back together. My first attempt to get it started showed major fuel leaks around my injectors. So I took a few hours to fix that and put it back together. It was being difficult about starting so I grabbed the can of ether and gave a few squirts into the intake. I turned the key, it turned over twice and then I heard a sound like a shotgun being fired and a cloud of smoke came from under the hood. The center section of the intake and both ends were blown off. So now it's time to put it all back together again.

The moral of the story: be careful when using ether.

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Originally Posted by JHowell37
After spending much of my free time this week replacing and refreshing all the seals, gaskets, and vacuum lines on the intake, injectors, etc, I put it all back together. My first attempt to get it started showed major fuel leaks around my injectors. So I took a few hours to fix that and put it back together. It was being difficult about starting so I grabbed the can of ether and gave a few squirts into the intake. I turned the key, it turned over twice and then I heard a sound like a shotgun being fired and a cloud of smoke came from under the hood. The center section of the intake and both ends were blown off. So now it's time to put it all back together again.

The moral of the story: be careful when using ether.
Sorry, the moral of the story is NEVER use ether.
I just got done with a deisel tractor restoration tht the PO had just built the motor about a year before.
EVERY ring land in the motor was broken from the use of ether.
I have seen heads blown off on gas motors with it.
Old 10-15-2006, 12:29 AM
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at -30C its still lethal.............my deisel tractor thats used to plow our 3/4km of driveway shudders under the stuff............easier to plug in the block heater for a couple of hours.
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Originally Posted by the flyin' scotsman
at -30C its still lethal.............my deisel tractor thats used to plow our 3/4km of driveway shudders under the stuff............easier to plug in the block heater for a couple of hours.
Yes sir, and here is proof!

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When you say ether....you guys mean "quick start" ??

I use the stuff all the time in my winter beater.....by the sounds of it, I guess I should use it wisely, or not at all.....
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Originally Posted by skruggs964
When you say ether....you guys mean "quick start" ??

I use the stuff all the time in my winter beater.....by the sounds of it, I guess I should use it wisely, or not at all.....
Not at all would be my vote.
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Doesn't WD40 work as well and is not bad as ether or "starting fluid"???
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Originally Posted by Giovanni
Doesn't WD40 work as well and is not bad as ether or "starting fluid"???
I would think that it is the propane propelent that makes WD-40 work, never tried it.
We use brake clean in very small amounts here at the shop to do quick test for lack of fuel.
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Berryman's B12 works great for a spark check too. Also clears a flooded engine(as long as it's not bad enough to hydro-lock).
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Originally Posted by blown 87
I would think that it is the propane propelent that makes WD-40 work, never tried it.
We use brake clean in very small amounts here at the shop to do quick test for lack of fuel.

I think WD-40 has gone away from propane propellant, maybe 5 years ago or more. Of course, that may just be a Cali smog requirement that doesn't apply in Ga.
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Originally Posted by dr bob
I think WD-40 has gone away from propane propellant, maybe 5 years ago or more. Of course, that may just be a Cali smog requirement that doesn't apply in Ga.
Where Cali goes, the rest soon follow, sadly in some cases.
You may be right about the propane.
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I'm sorry but I almost spit water onto my keyboard reading that.
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I take it your engine is an 85-86 32 valver? BTDT
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If you use ether, just barely hit the button like you're testing for pressure but not trying to get anything out. Supposedly that much ether will launch a potato about 1/2 mile...

Also, don't use any spray in chemicals before the MAF.
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I still think scot's rebuild disaster was originally due to the use of the shop using ether to get it started. we had a coil wire reversed. so the shop method was use ether until the motor grenades!
it did. never again. if a 928 engine doesnt start right up, somethings WRONG! stop, double check, and retry. No ether!

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