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Old 09-15-2006, 05:36 PM
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More than a few cops take the challenge to outsmart speeders....and don't under-estimate the brains some of these guys have. Also, they have special training meetings with their best (along with the radar equipment maker's salespeople) on how to use the equipment and outfox cagy drivers with their radar detectors. I have a few receipts that prove that they've outsmarted me and my V1.

I guess this is not much of a problem in such places as Dutch Harbor, Alaska (dogsleds stay under 55), but it is an issue here in the northwest. I find that Washington state seems to place extraordinary effort on this money-maker although Oregon is speeding to catch up with their stoplight cameras, etc.

The only way I've found that I can be (mostly) assured of not getting a ticket is to not speed. However, misleading speed limit signs, coupled with "speed traps", seem to catch one unawares sometimes anyway. Life's better with a V1 than without.

This is one more reason why track days are easily worth the money.

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Old 09-15-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron_H
Chris, I thought about my lengthy post. Let me use an example of a best practice vs. common practice. Letting the 85th percentile of drivers under free flowing conditions determine the speed limit on a particular section of roadway, rather than the 55 percentile of drivers under less than free flowing conditons, as is done routinely, is a best practice. There are requirements for adjusting this number related to conditions unknown to drivers, accident history, visibility of factors affecting driver's behaviour like regulating signs, police, workmen, etc., alignment of roadway. Examine an "engineering study" and the raw data gathered to produce it and you will be amazed at what passes for "engineering practices". Another is the procedure for setting yellow light timing, which is supposed to be done by engineers, not vendors of red light cameras. There are others, but those two are of great concern since they are violated so blatantly to build revenue.

Hey, the Earth is round. We know that now. Let's move on.

Ron, you'll get no argument from me, I just thought the page was, er, sparse. This is something I'd be interested in giving money to, but like to be able to do a bit more research before I do, although what you've explained definitely provides some useful details. I'll have to look at the link you provided later. Thanks!
Old 09-15-2006, 06:01 PM
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Another find... for those who assume that a laser alert means that you're toast -- it doesn't. I've always assumed that with the small spot, laser would be hard to aim, in the same way that even an expert marksman can't always hit a moving target with a bullet. This guy is not in the best position to be attempting this, but I think it illustrates some of the challenges faced by those trying to use laser. Detecting scatter from poor aiming or detecting laser before it locks in is always going to be of some value.

http://media.putfile.com/shoot-laser...orch-prolaser1
Old 09-15-2006, 10:41 PM
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Dave: thanks, that was very helpful to know. Still haven't decided what to purchase but laser capability will def. be on the list.

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Harvey:

Outsmarted you? Please call me next time.
Old 09-18-2006, 10:38 AM
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Took a trip out to Pocono Raceway for NNJR's Porscherama this past weekend. Used the Cayenne to tow my 944S2 to the track. I still had the V1 on the dash even though I don't speed while towing. Needless to say it was a great event. Sad to say out of well over 100 cars there was only 1 928, compared to 3 last year.

I must say that the V1 caught every Bogey and had almost no false alarms. The cops are getting smarter they are now finding places to sit way back in the woods and you can't see them until it is too late. Another tricky little game they played was to have one cop sit out in the open using laser and another about a half mile up the road sitting behind a barrier using Ka. Over the next ridge they had a series of cars pulling people over by the dozens.
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OK tested the passport with my auto climate control. The auto climate control causes the Laser setting to go off. I covered the port where the temp reader is and it shuts it down.
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Anthony said: "......Another tricky little game they played was to have one cop sit out in the open using laser and another about a half mile up the road sitting behind a barrier using Ka. Over the next ridge they had a series of cars pulling people over by the dozens."

That presupposes that dozens were driving over the limit, routinely, absent false readings on the police measurement devices . Did you notice mass carnage on the highways? No? Was that a typical day on that stretch of roadway? What conclusion can you derive from the facts?



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