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Yeah man - too bad some Rennlisters are above having some gearhead fun - I wish I was that much better than everyone else so that I could chastise people for even daring to participate in such a silly childish thread.

At least Kibort will give me a go, even though he wears those expensive sunglasses - gotta respect him.

hacker-pschorr

They were probably sitting under the GT3 wing he recently aquired.

Jim bailey - 928 International

The problem is I do not appreciate drag racing only ever ran one time about ten years ago litle Yellow 911 did one run only. My wife loves the Winternationals @ Pomona asks to go every year thus far I could only tolerate it one year out of 14. Never ever drag raced anyone on the street could not see the point . My biggest hang up is the feeling that drag racing is ABUSE The 428 Supercobra jet Mach I s were interesting to rev up and dump the clutch with 4:30 gears but I was glad they belonged to the dealership where I was working and not me ! But Yes I have done some stupid things like run away from the Highway patrol on a 4 lane NOT LIMITED ACCESS road at 140 mph and on occasion driven after having a cocktail or two or three where I was at risk if an accident happened and even if was the other guys fault..... Like I said waiting in line for an hour to do a 10-15 second run and only getting up to 100-120 MPH. I drive into corners faster than that

Imo000

Fair enough but just because you don't like drag racing it doesn't mean everyone else feels the same way. What happend 10 years ago in that yellow 911? Were you expecting faster ETs and got dissapointed or was it just that it wasn't your cup of tea?

I try to hit the 1/4 mile track at least once a season. usually go with a bunch my gearhead buddies and we go agains each other all day. The secret to a succesfull day at the strip is to go for a "test&tune" session and for a "Friday night race what you brung" event. Test & Tunes last 4 hours, scosts $30 and I was able to make alsmot 20 runs with cool down periods in between.

Trust me, it can be fun.

mark kibort

I understand the thrill, but when road racing, i get a drag race every lap after dropping down to 2nd gear and rounding turn 11. (for most of the race)instead of 0-115mph,its from 40mph to 130mph!
And, instead of tossing out a chute, i can just pitch the car and carve a turn up a hill .

Its all good, but i think to jims point, its a lot of fun to be beating your car up for 2 hours a weekend, rather than 11 or 22 or 33 seconds over a day.

MK

sharkmeister85

I have no problem with guys who are "into " drag racing, but as far as I'm concerned its strictly a "one dimensional" test of a cars performance. Very much suited to early American cars with big engines, but no brakes or suspensions. Porsches were designed to be much more than that. Accelerate, brake, turn, everything a car must do in the real world, all in one balanced package. If all you want to do is to measure your Porsche by the "standards" of an American car, go right ahead. But you're selling your car short and not improving your driving abilities to match its total performance envelope.
Glenn

928saregreat

It quite a surprise to me how passionate some guys are about their cars. Its kind of inspiring and a little intimidating all at the same time. I've owned 944 n/a's, 951's and now I own a 928. I have to say that I've enjoyed each one of them...strengths and weekness combined. The handling on these cars is simply fantastic and its one of the reasons they're so cool! I'll tell you one reason I drive a 928..speaking honestly..is because I had to re@re a clutch on my 1986 turbo..I did it in my driveway without a lift and to this day it has to rate as the most MISERABLE mechanical job I've ever done on any car anywhere!! Book has 20 hours on that job but I swear I worked on that clutch every evening for 2 weeks to change that thing. Because its a big job many people put it off and the PO on that car was no exception. So when you get down to it removing things nothing comes apart without a fight. The 928 clutch in comparison is such a breeze to work on...
I went hunting for specs because comparing modified cars leaves too many variables as to original condition, what exactly was changed, ext. What I found were 0-60 and 1/4 mile times that were very close to each other when compared together from year to year. I think it would really depend on the driver...maybe the 951 has a little more off the line if you don't mind beating on it and the 928 more in the top end...but thats about it. They are very close as far as specifications are concerned
Let me say this..500 hp out of a 2.5 liter is 1st an incredible accomplishment and 2nd is an extremely STRUNG engine. 200 hp/liter can in no way be as reliable as the same out of a 5 liter hands down. If I was racing and money was no object I suppose I'd consider building it but for street performance I think that i'd rather build a good v8 and have something that could put out those sort of numbers and then last 100000k. That would be my goal anyway and its easier to accomplish that with a v8.
As its been said..they're is no substitute for cubic inches..except cubic dollars...

Mark

H2

"As its been said..they're is no substitute for cubic inches..except cubic dollars"... Mark

Words of wisdom have been spoken. Amen.

Harvey

John Veninger

You need cubic dollars when building cubic inches!!

ibkevin

Ummm, 951 guy's can sink an amazing amount of $$$ into a 20yo plant, with results! Maybe you skipped the last 12 pages.

Therefore, cubic dollars>cubic inches.

tedesco

I like the 928 and I own a a few 944 s. I thought that as 928s have twice the cylinders of a 944 it could be twice the fun. Reading through olds posts on the board it seems that this is wrong. There seem to be more +400HP 951s around than there are +400HP 928s. The reason might be the amount of money you need to spend to extract some significant HP from a 928 as there was no stock turbo version on the market. That means alot restict boost to something like 7PSI as it seems (so almost naturaly aspirated) and get little gains to retain stock (high compression) internals. If the block is strong and the tranny can take it why should it not be possible to have twice the power of a 951? Additionaly you get the sound of a V8 and plenty of low end torque compared to the 951.
Are 928 owners sissys and don't want to toss an engine while seeking the limits?

Bill Coleman

You can compare a specific 928 to a specific 951. Any other comparison is pointless.

lart951

OMG, get your flames suit ready, you said the magic word.

marton

100 million miles?

I hope and wish

Marton

Mark

Okay troll...
as there were as many 944's made in a single year, as there were 928 throughout its model life - 944 blocks are cheap....and therefore much more 'tossable'. 928 engines are made of cantaffordium and unobtainium.

Your comments remind me of many of the RICERS in my area....they'll boost the **** out of 'em...and when the block ends up with a hole the size of a baseball in it - they just 'TOSS' it and go to the junkyard and buy another one for a couple hundred$.

And - before you get your four-banger panties in a wad...please see my sig line...I own BOTH a 928 and a 951. I LOVE Them both. They are two VERY different (and GREAT) automobiles. And as I am intimately familiar with them both (on the street and on the track) I am smart enough to NOT begin to compare them.

Long road course - Find me in the 928.
Short/tight AX - I'm in the 951.
Twisty run through the mountains....hmmm...either one will be fun!
Drag racing - I'm watching John Force's daughters!!