dr bob

Nicobel--

PM me with your regular e-mail, and I'll send directions.


Keith--

Have fun in Portland. PACNW members-- fair warning has been given!

dr bob

Two new attendees have PM'd for directions. Send me an e-mail at dr.bobf[at]att.net and get a treasure map sent to you.

perrys4

Dr. BOB...wanna attempt a motor mount project between brake bleeding???? Thats my last big project outside of a belly pan.

RyanPerrella

Good luck on that one Ron, thats a 10 hour job, and it could be a whole weekend job with your luck.

I'd be willing to help out, but i'd give myself an 8 hour max. The brake flush should honestly take no more than an hour per car, its really fast actually.

928ntslow

I've done motor mounts in less than 4 hours...and that was taking our time. The right tools will speed the job...and knowing how to do it!

Rob Edwards

I can bring my spanking new engine hoist bar if there's motor mounting to be done!

dr bob

Ummm, not really. There won't be that much time between brake flushes.

Motor mounts make a filthy, labor-intensive project that deserves to be done on a dedicated day, not a hot day, etc. Takes somewhere around 4 hours with 2 working at it. Longer if you decide to do the pan gasket at the same time.

RyanPerrella

yeah its definately one of those insert hand to undo bolt, come out with arm completely covered in grease to the elbow.

I was guessing on time, it took me 30 min to do mine with the engine out, then i read the write up and you have to remove the lower control arm for access. And the oil pan will take you a couple hours too just cleaning it out and removing the old gasket. Obviously you should definately do it though if your going through the effort of removing the lower crossmember.

And for what its worth, I had bought motor mounts from rock auto, but i sent them back as i got two different mounts, and i ended up buying them at auto zone for $50 each and they have a lifetime warranty, not that you would ever want to replace them again, but the anchor mounts from autozone were of far nicer quality then the ones rock auto sent me.

perrys4

I was just kidding you guys, That is not something that has to be done right away and I know it is a long messy job. FYI, I drove my car all over yesterday and it is running better than it ever has. Thanks again for everything you all did for me.

dr bob

We'll get to it sometime later this year. Before that day, you'll spend an hour or two with the engine degreaser and the car on stands, getting as much of that muck and slime off the bottom as possible. Get the GTS baffle (cheap), the silicone gasket for the sump. There are copper sealing washers on the PS rack banjo fittings where the hoses attach, good idea to get those renewed so no leaks. You'll need an oil change kit: Oil, Filter, drain plug seal. Motor mounts of your choice, with new locking nuts for the threaded studs. There is a NAPA store nearby, if you go in that direction you'll have some exchange capability if something isn't right.

All the tools are here already. Bring some old coveralls, a box of nitrile gloves, and at least one other friend who is drunk enough to start the job yet sober enough to finish it.


The last "motor mount day" I attended for others was way back when, up at Eric Munck's place. The work was done on a lift, with several of us working on the car. Started at 8am, finsihed after 10pm I hear. Brian Donaldson was the lucky recipient of that work, and had a three-plus hour drive back to San Diego that night after all the fun. I did my own mounts about a year ago, by myself, over the course of a couple days. Maybe 10-12 casual hours total time including all the cleaning.

Keith Widom and Joe Serio did a full-intensity mount swap at Joe's house, using Joe's scissor lift. I think they said that was about four hours IIRC. Joe's a pretty good wrench, and may have had a lot of the "pre-work" done to help manage the time. If nothing else, the car was already cooled, up on the lift, wheels were off and tools were laid out. Mrs. Doctor Bob hasn't yet heard the argument for having a lift here in the garage, although she has given tentative blessing to the idea in the past. It just hasn't happened yet, so mounts here would still be car on tall stands and victims laying on the concrete working over their heads.

Think "after Santa Ana wind season unless an air conditioner arrives here for the garage. Not in October or the first couple weeks of November. Not on any Saturdays or Wednesdays in December or over the Christmas to New Years period when we put on that little parade and football game in Pasadena". I saw portable 10KBTU AC units in a Fry's ad for $329, might go check those out. Garage is getting too hot to work in past noon most days now.

dr bob

Aride down to 928 International this afternoon resulted in possesion of a Porsche/Brembo bleeder screw kit for one caliper. These are insurance spares for the flush clinic, but... New parts, about $15/wheel. Bright yellow cad/zink plating on the bleeder valves, plus two new new rubber dust boots. With a new or replated cross-pipe, these babies get added to the list of things to install when refinshing calipers. They are very pretty!

For those attending who'd like to put some on their cars, contact Jim Bailey and have him order 4 sets for you. Those old bleeders will look like junk after you see these!

dr bob

Just a reminder that the fun starts tomorrow morning at 10AM here in sunny and warm Glendale, Ca.

I found a $20 case of Dexron ATF, so if any vistors happen to have a trans filter kit with them, we can do an AT service too.

S4 and later visitors will have the option of installing taillight seals to cut down the water dribbles after washing the car.

The battery service tools will be out for any who want to clean and seal terminals, and test the condition of the battery with the electrolyte SPG tester.

This is all in addition to the brake fluid flush service we have already planned.


Even if you choose not to do any of this to your car, feel free to join us and watch/help/learn. We tend to get a pretty intersting crowd of owners and visitors, so there's almost always a good reason to stop by.

See the attached map and directions PDF to help you find your way to the house. Please note that most GPS nav systems and Mapquest/Yahoo/Google/AOL map programs will give you wrong directions to get here. We have a mudslide-induced road closure that's a mere 19 months old, blocking the eastern approach to the castle. The western approach involves a fire access up a narrow connector that does double duty as a neighbor's driveway. Less than 15 mins from downtown L.A., we are a bit isolated here in our own little wilderness area/nature preserve.


See you Saturday!

RyanPerrella

I'll be there sometime after noon to lend a hand, after what will hopefully be a good match between the host Germans and Portugal, I suppose there will still be people ther with stuff to do around 1 right?

Only 2 world cup games left (although only one really means anything)

morganabowen

Germany was elimanated and the World Cup Finals are on Sunday noon between Portugal and Italy.
Dr. Bob, any particular brand or weight of brake fluid

RyanPerrella

yeah 3rd place game

Like i said it dosent really mean anything, but i expect it to be a good game