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Old 06-12-2006, 07:02 PM
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Default Yet another blurb about a "new" 928

In this months Motor Trend magazine is the following:

"Porsche-Fest! 10 new models by 2010"

"NEW 928 - With the front-engined Panamera now underway, Porsche engineers also are pondering whether a short-wheelbase, two-door version of the car could be built as a 21st-century 928 to take on cars such as Bentley's Continental GT, and Ferrari's 612 Scaglietti."

Bring it on!
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Oh Boy....I wonder if Porsche clenches the sphincter everytime they hear/see "New 928" in the publications.
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And it will probably bankrupt the company once again, just like it did last time. They are getting behind the curve on power, warantee trust, customer loyalty, and of course rebustness of mechanicals.
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i'd buy one.
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Brendan-
I agree ont he power side, but actually Porsche beat out (just) Lexus in initial quality to take top honors for performance sports cars... I think the Lexus "performance sports car" that they were compared against was the SC430.
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
Brendan-
I agree ont he power side, but actually Porsche beat out (just) Lexus in initial quality to take top honors for performance sports cars... I think the Lexus "performance sports car" that they were compared against was the SC430.
Everytime I read the 996 and 997 forums, I cringe when I see what Porsche does to thier current new car customers. Its horrible, and will eventually pile back on the company, sinking it. You can't do that to such a small customer base.
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It seems the trend today is retro old school muscle cars....the new mustang, possibly the upcoming camaro...challenger??.....all the SRT8 vehicles..... With mercedes constantly uping the HP with monster V8's.....maybe Porsche with bring back the 928......I wouldn't bet on it.....I'm sure it would have a different name.....but how cool would it be if it was a 928..... I would take a serious look at one then (if I had the money?)
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Bentley's Continental GT and Ferrari's 612 Scagliettiare are very heavy, the "new 928" will make the old 928 look like a featherweight.
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And it will probably bankrupt the company once again, just like it did last time
That's funny, I don't remember hearing about Porsche going into bankruptcy.

I wish you wouldn't perpetuate such a false rumor. The 928 was not the sole cause of Porsche's problems of the late 80's to early 90s. The major cause was that the botttom fell out of the US market (housing bubble burst, stock market crash and then a recession, remember?).
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As for the retro trend. Lamborghini has even gotten in on it with a retro Miura concept.


But I agree. Porsche would probably not wanna use the nomenclature 928 to describe their new car. But it sure would be cool for us if they did.
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The Bentley Gt weighs about 5,250 lbs , the Scag a svelte 4050 lbs with a wheelbase of 116 inches ! Our little 928 has a 98.43 inch wheelbase.
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
As for the retro trend. Lamborghini has even gotten in on it with a retro Miura concept.


But I agree. Porsche would probably not wanna use the nomenclature 928 to describe their new car. But it sure would be cool for us if they did.

Thats only concept, i had heard they arent making it though? Perhaps im wrong. I like it.
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Originally Posted by Flott Leben
That's funny, I don't remember hearing about Porsche going into bankruptcy.

I wish you wouldn't perpetuate such a false rumor. The 928 was not the sole cause of Porsche's problems of the late 80's to early 90s. The major cause was that the botttom fell out of the US market (housing bubble burst, stock market crash and then a recession, remember?).

I should correct my post. I should add "almost" and "on the fringe of"

History repeats itself, it always does.

The major cause was that the buyers of high-priced exotics disappeared, and Porsche had alot of high priced exotics, i.e, the 928. The 928 was 80k in 1988, and my 1989 was right around there with less options then would normally be had. It was actually leased first, which is interesting for the late 80s.

They became complacent (sound familiar) and sold cars that (while being probably much more robust then today's cars) were not in touch with the reality of the day.

I am not saying history will repeat itself in the exact same way - the 928 was already in production for 12-13 years - but it never did sell well, and Porsche invested huge amounts of money into the development of that car.

The cayennes are NOT a success. The huge sedan that they will make probably will not be as well. Then will come the 928, which make actually LOSE them money and bam - its 1994 again, and people are talking about buying Porsche out.

They are the most profitable auto company that exists today. They did this on monetary hedging, and not *all* (as many believe) on selling cars at a profit, though this is currently true.


As a side note, please remember that Porsche survived because they figured out how to pawn off a much lower-quality car on enthusiasts and posuers alike with thier long-time brand power. And do believe that it is fading.w
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Personally, I would not think it could have any positive impact on our cars, other than a minor bump in visibility to the general market; at least not from the dealers. And it would siphon off any buyers at the top end (GTS) market, IF any of them w/that amt of cash are looking in the GTS bracket as it is.
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Don't forget in the early 90's everyone was jumping on the SUV wagon and the sports car craze was dying quickly. These cars were very expensive for the time with a very small % of the market even coming close to being able to afford them, not to mention Porsche's approach to manufacturing. All their product was lacking internal quality control. Although overall product quality was very high manufacturing quality was low, with tremendous wasted time and effort being put into every vehicle. This included the 911's.

The Japanese were brought in to retrain a very set work force and streamline production efforts. Products were dropped so cars like the Boxster and new 911 would be able to share components and reduce cost. How else can they sell their cars for almost the same price today as they did back then. I for one am greatful they didn't redesign the 928 back then to share parts with the Boxster.

I am looking forward to whatever they create. If they put the Cayenne V8 TT motor in it and it weighs 4000 pounds it is sure to be a rocket.


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