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Old 02-23-2006, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PorKen
Dave,

I meant the single year before upgrades.

'78 is cool cuz it's the first.
'80 has L-Jet, no air pump (a year unto itself)
'81 has 'Competition Group' option
'83 has 4.7L
86.5 is...
I was just giving you a hard time...

Besides, I saw your post before you edited -- how the heck can you say that about any shark?

Old 02-23-2006, 11:52 AM
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To ad to what Chuck said.

Recently a 93 GTS auto with 90K miles was purchased by a local for about $40k. The car was in fair condition at best with bondo repairs that were damaged to the front and rear of the car and the undercarriage had some damage also. I spoke to the mechanic that was doing a PPI after the new owner bought the car. He figured it will take $8k to bring it up to speed not including the cosmetic repairs. The new owners response was I don't care I wanted a GTS in this color combo and they are hard to find. Those that want them badly enough don't seem to care about price and when compared to what is new on the market at that price range, nothing comes close.
Old 02-23-2006, 11:54 AM
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Porken wrote:

The optional euro 85-86 32V is a bit of a dud? (Lower compression to run on Europe's low octane unleaded at the time.)
May seem that way on paper, but the one I rode in was still a monster. It had a different (appeared to be more free flowing) rear muffler, so I wonder if that would make up for some of the HP loss on the compression. And it came stock with the S4 brakes. If I had my choice between a low comp '86 32v S Euro, and an early '86 32v S US, I'd take the low comp Euro. It would be interesting to dyno one of the Euro 32v S's and see how much (if any) is really lost to the lower compression rating.

One thing for sure, it would probably be the ideal candidate for boosting.
(I know, I know, BEFORE upgrades )
Old 02-23-2006, 12:25 PM
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79's are the best to boost 8.5:1 compression ratio. perfect for a big turbo. there also lightweights with no sunroof. Get control of your fuel and timming and 14 psi can be safetly done. but at 12 psi you'll need longer legs . for the low of a compression ratio the ob with bolt on's and euro goodies can put out 220 rwhp. 2900lbs can be obtained with out giving up too much comfort
Old 02-23-2006, 01:03 PM
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I assume most of the people on this list bought their cars cheap, in thought that with the help of Rennlist they will make it a very nice car or a Monster or whatever. The people buying GTS's are not, usually, supercharging and modifying things. Therefore those people are a different breed, not all but most I assume. They want low mile cars to take out on Sunday in the sun. Not pavement pounding motherf*^kers that will blow you away. Supercharge that OB and spin the tires. I wanted as new as I could afford, ('87 at the time), low miles & less wear and tear, and I started to mod it lightly with what I had available. Now she smokes and breathes fire. I get all sorts of compliments on the sound and look. But I'm not in it for that, I have a blast driving and I get to laugh at the PCA Club guys with their Boxster's & 996's who never heard of a 928 or or what they call the fish bowl.

To each thier own, to me I think the worst year would be up to your taste. HP or money or looks, or....
Old 02-23-2006, 01:22 PM
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There is no way I would buy a GTS, and probably GT, without Chuck Z's advice. He is one of many great resources we enjoy and may take for granted on this list. I have to say though I like my worst model 928 ever made.
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This is an opinon base thread. Please no one take anything personal!!!! the best 928 is the one you own. just owning a 928 makes you want to learn the porsche history. like you said curt. there plenty of 986 and 911 guys that dont post here, that no nothing about other porsches.
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oh yeah if the the tires are spinning your transmission isnt breaking lol its when you put those wide and sticky tires that breaks the trans
Old 02-23-2006, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Z
.....GTS's are overpriced? I'm sorry but I just do not understand these type of comments. Overpriced according to whom? Buyers (now this I think I understand)? Dreamers? Who? Fact is, they are selling at these "overpriced" prices. Just last week a 1994 GTS automatic with 15k miles sold for $56,500 (I spoke personally with the new owner, he knows he paid a premium price but realistically how many choices did he have....). Why are appreciating prices or perceived high prices bad for the 928 community as a whole? Why would any enthusiast of any car wish for prices to drop? Am I missing something here??
I agree.

These cars are like any commodity. The ONLY way prices go up is for someone to pay more than "market value"; at that point a new value basis is established. I know this may be a little different with a car vs. a piece of real estate, but someone has to step up and pay more, especially if the number of cars may be decreasing annually.

The bottom line is if you think it's worth it, it is and you're the only person to whom this matters...
Old 02-23-2006, 03:11 PM
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For me I like the later cars for the blade fuses but they can still have electrical problems.

The 78-79 cars while dead simple if they are in good shape, have small brakes, and the CIS system can really suck down the gas and bills from the wallet, if you start replacing major CIS parts.

EFI is better and more reliable.

The 80 and 81 cars seem to flake out. I had an 80 that was reliable but i have heard of nightmares with those too.

My personaly favorites are the 83S and 84S 16v cars. They have to be well maintained. They are a lot simpler to work on than the dohc cam cars. A good upgrade is S4 calipers.

I have a nice 83S and that car still turns a lot of heads.
Old 02-23-2006, 03:19 PM
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The 928 has something in common with another "thing" many of us spent our youth chasing, in that there is no such thing as a bad one......some are just better than others.....And 928s don't talk back....... I will leave it at that.
Old 02-23-2006, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gretch
The 928 has something in common with another "thing" many of us spent our youth chasing, in that there is no such thing as a bad one......some are just better than others.....And 928s don't talk back....... I will leave it at that.
twice divorced, and eternally grateful...I can astutely agree. "What HE said"....!!!
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Originally Posted by Chuck Z
.....GTS's are overpriced? I'm sorry but I just do not understand these type of comments. Overpriced according to whom? Buyers (now this I think I understand)? Dreamers? Who? Fact is, they are selling at these "overpriced" prices. Just last week a 1994 GTS automatic with 15k miles sold for $56,500 (I spoke personally with the new owner, he knows he paid a premium price but realistically how many choices did he have....).
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Are you talking about this 928GTS that's still listed in the Rennlist classifieds? (how many 15K mile '94 GTS's can there be that sold in the mid-$50's recently )

Looks like the ad was placed here over 9 months ago....guess they were holding out for their price (or close to it if they got $56.5K)

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Old 02-23-2006, 04:59 PM
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Am I missing something here??
Chuck..how many times have we been down THIS road??? If someone doesn't understand that a Porsche 928 that sold for $80K+ on the low side is now almost half the price, then they just are not educated in what a 928 actually IS compared to "other" cars in the world. I have explained it in elementry form as well as technical form and it always seems to fall on deaf ears/blind eyes.

I just will never understand how these 928 owners actually respect their own car. Here they are driving a machine that they could have NEVER afforded in their lives and are now fortunate enough to have the opportunity to own one by the foolishness of the car buying community. My 1982's sticker price was over $40K...that is STILL a lot of money for a car in 2006! If I could buy a new 928 at that price now, I would JUMP ON IT!!!

So tell me, what has changed since the car was sold new and at such a high price??? NOTHING except age. It STILL has every bit of high engineering and design from the day it left the factory....it is STILL a Porsche 928! If you have the ability and good sense to keep it maintained, it should not be worth much less than what was initially paid for it when new. These guys who keep bitching will NEVER get it! I don't even think they know how much they have put into their own car to date. I can bet it exceeds prices they keep complaining about!
Oh yea...and what's the deal with these guys who say, "I would NEVER own a GTS!" I don't want to insult anyone, but that is just a dumbass statement.

Here, let me join you

BTW, the worst year 928 was the 1996, yep, I saw the parts on Ebay..just goes to show those 96's were POS's!
Old 02-23-2006, 06:05 PM
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The reason that some would like to see the prices come down is well... Let's take the opposite approach, only someone who is currently selling or planning to sell their car would want to see prices increase.



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